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Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by ushakov »

lotusmars wrote: post #208
ushakov wrote: post #198

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can you name any Russian company that doesn't? obeying to Kremlin is just an aspect of running business in Russia the only option would be not to operate in Russia at all. Yandex can't do this, because their audience is primarily in Russia

Well they've made their choice and silenced our protest and opposition, and later spewed pro-war anti-Ukrainian propaganda using country's largest media (Yandex News). If you're profiteering from our suffering and choose Kremlin's needs over ours, don't be suprised then when we tell you to shove your AI models and your search.

they're selling Yandex News to VK (Mail.ru)

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by lotusmars »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #193
lotusmars wrote: post #144

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It was hilarious when people from Moscow wrote "they took away our ability to buy Chanel bags, so much for European tolerance!" Not even seeing the irony. What did they expect in response to bombing, pillaging, mass rape? Friendly hug?

If I counted every time a NATO member committed worse atrocities but wasn't held accountable at all I'd probably stop after Ukraine is conquered. What did they expect? Probably indifference, same reaction to any war crime committed by the west so far.

Say what you want, most people in Eastern Europe, Ukraine and even lots of people in Russia would prefer to be under protection of NATO.

If it were not for NATO, Russian rapists would already be in Tallinn, Vilnius, Helsinki. Claiming they were offended by historical injustices therefore women should be raped and men shot dead ("denazified").

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by layer8 »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #154
layer8 wrote: post #79

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The purpose is deterrence, not punishment.

And yet sanctions never work as a deterrent. Cuba is still socialist after 60 years of sanctions. Great deterrent! No, sanctions just punish generation after generation of innocent people and serve no other purpose. If you still mantain that the purpose is deterrence, then you must be a fool or worse, since it never works! Can't you learn from the past? Edit: Before you even dig out some article like this: https://ww…

Obviously you have a much stronger opinion on that than I do, but at the very least, sanctions should deter other countries from acting in a similar fashion. For example, if — hypothetically — China is considering invading Taiwan, they will have to factor in that the Western world will stop doing business with them. If the West hadn’t put sanctions in place for Russia, that would lessen the concern for China. Maybe you think that isn’t worth it — that’s a valid personal judgement of course.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by SXX »

baisq wrote: post #69
tremarley wrote: post #63

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Google absolutely does the same thing.

Not to mention that Yandex does it in Russia because the law forces them to, while Google does it happily just to maintain the political status quo, of which they are a part of.

Google does not show government propoganda on search engine front page. If Yandex wanted to shut down their news aggregator they could have done it.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by OmicronCeti »

yonixw wrote: post #173
keewee7 wrote: post #133

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Bad comment. First, can you please name the founder? Because according to wiki Ilya Segalovich never lived in Israel and Arkady_Volozh lives in Tel Aviv (Not a settlement). Both Jewish, so why present it as some "must-be-hidden-cause" connection with Israel? Also, nothing shady from Israel side in term of sanctions. They have a large Jewish community in both Russia and Ukraine and need to be on good term with both to…

>Elena Bunina, who is Jewish, is stepping down from her role as CEO of Yandex LLC, 'Russia's Google,' amid the war in Ukraine. Sources confirm she is in Israel and has no intention of returning to Russia

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/2022-04-06/ty-...

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by DrewADesign »

dTal wrote: post #188
dicknuckle wrote: post #179

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Settling land that was recently taken from Palestinian families by force, often (literally) knocking the existing houses over with a bulldozer. In my opinion, that's a moral red flag to participate in such an atrocity.

What has Yandex got to do with any of that? Is everyone who lives in a country that commits atrocities "shady as fuck"? : reading closely I see that the initial allegation did use the word "settlement", and indeed that would constitute ethically questionable behavior. However, a sibling comment refutes this.

I think you’re missing that the commenter was talking about Israeli settlers rather than Israelis in general? The settlers are controversial because they live in areas Israel occupied during the 6 day war in 1967. Much of the world considers their presence illegal, though Israel disputes that. Many, if not most, would consider living in these settlements a deliberate political provocation.

*edit: you hadn’t posted your edit yet. I have no idea if the allegation is truthful.

*edit again: Why do downvoters think I’m wrong?

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by thereddaikon »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #175
pembrook wrote: post #138

Side note: Yandex search is awesome, and I really hope they stay alive forever. It's the only functional image search nowadays, after our Google overlords neutered their own product out of fear over lawyers/regulation and a disdain for power users. You can't even search for images "before:date" in Google anymore.

> Google overlords neutered their own product out of fear over lawyers/regulation What kind of lawyers/regulation do you have in mind? If anything, I'd find the opposite: lawyers and copyright holders should be grateful for such a tool that - when it was still working - allowed you to trace websites using your images illegally. Now they all use Yandex for this purpose, with relatively good results.

IIRC it was mostly from groups like Getty images. They and other image licensing companies didn't want google showing their images in search results. They claimed it was copyright infringement and given the absolute state of IP law in the US they could have made Google's life very difficult.

Re: YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters

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Post by lotusmars »

ushakov wrote: post #221
lotusmars wrote: post #208

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Well they've made their choice and silenced our protest and opposition, and later spewed pro-war anti-Ukrainian propaganda using country's largest media (Yandex News). If you're profiteering from our suffering and choose Kremlin's needs over ours, don't be suprised then when we tell you to shove your AI models and your search.

they're selling Yandex News to VK (Mail.ru)

It's still working as usual and they announced the transition after 8 years of warmongering and blacklisting all opposition resources. And only when sanctions hit.

Now they scramble to present a whitewashed image to Western public. They will probably put themselves forward as great contributors to open source.

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