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Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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I get why some people like cities. Especially kids who don't want to be tied down, who want to be able to explore who they are, who want to see and be part of something bigger than their hometown. There's plenty of things to love about cities, from the convenience of the nightlife/food culture, to the "pulse" of the city, the feeling that something is always happening at any time of day, the compassionate social comp…

I'm not making a case for dense urban living. I understand many do not prefer that form of living, in fact I'd say most do not. Something in between dense living and what we are currently building in the US seems most prudent to me, but I'm simply an observer. My experiences in the suburbs were not remotely near yours, and I spent nearly all my life in them throughout the US - including raising a kid. In my experienc…

I'm assuming the types of older w/ downtown suburbs you're talking about are more like this, right?:

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2054168,-71.5416077,3a,75y,0...

For the record I grew up between two types of places. One was a pretty, forested, newish, wealthy, totally-isolated-from-anything-that's-not-a-home-or-school development very similar to this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7471229,-122.073413,3a,60y,0...

The other was a more remote, rural, mixed-income area a lot like this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4281764,-78.0252446,3a,75y,1...

I found both of those great in their own ways. The former was extremely pleasant and peaceful. Kids would play around outside, neighbors would walk their dogs together, people would frequently have house parties and barbecues and such. Weirdly, it's completely isolated from any commercial development. It's a 10 minute drive to the nearest place you can buy anything. Nobody had much of a problem having a social life as far as I could tell.

The latter was great too, but in a more independent kind of way. Everybody kept to themselves more at home, but they would congregate at church or at the local restaurants all the time. People would shoot guns, drive 4x4s, just do whatever the heck they wanted and nobody gave them shit for it. There was a bigger mix of poorer folks and richer folks, oftentimes along traditional racial boundaries, but they coexisted better than any community I've seen. Rich farmers would shoot an extra deer each year for the poorer families so they could eat meat for dinner even when it was expensive. There was a bit of a "downtown" but it was still like, 20 minutes drive away on a country road so not really accessible without a car obviously. School and sports was a huge center of life there: people all over town would come to the local high school football games.

I'm still not exactly sure which kinds of suburbs, or aspects of suburbs, you find alien.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Please note that the fear-instilling effect of media coverage is not backed by conclusive evidence. George Gerbner's famous television studies suggested that heavy viewers of crime shows would become more fearful and over-estimate violent crime (hence the name "scary world theory"). But scientific support is mixed, it's not safe to assume that this effect exists.

Seems to me that this is a direct corollary of the claim that people’s beliefs are affected at least somewhat by the data they are exposed to. This seems self-evidently true.

Maybe, but there's more to it.

(1) inconclusive means we may not have looked hard enough, or

(2) the effect may be very very small, as in not distinguishable from zero, or

(3) there are alternative models of learning. People could do bayesian updating, but they may also employ thresholds, toggle between belief systems and so on.

Summary: it's very complicated, lack of evidence suggests caution.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Yes. Everything "just works" and it's quite easy to add block rules in the Fastmail web interface. You initially set up the wildcard alias: for any email to *@example.com, route it to me@example.com Then you can add rules to drop emails to foo@example.com, bar@example.com, .... Those work independently from the wildcard.

i guess im very pedantic - i don't want to make a rule to delete a email. i want it to bounce and never see my inbox and have the sender see that it bounced.

Fastmail has first-class support for exactly what you want. Settings > Users & Aliases > + New Alias > "Show advanced preferences". There's a checkbox that says "Disable - Reject (bounce) all mail sent to this address (disable the alias) Disable a specific address when you have a wildcard (catch-all) alias."

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

Yeah its insane in this case. On the other hand a fishing buddy of mine was stabbed by a total stranger when he answered the door. (a drug addict trying to rob his place.) Fortunately he was able to shove the guy back out the door and lock it before passing out from blood loss and others in his house called the cops administer first and emergency services were able to save him.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Not if you go into the actual settings. The problem is that Apple is too stupid to respect the setting you make there. If you turn off Bluetooth in your system settings, they should treat the control panel's Bluetooth switch as a true on/off. But no; it's always temporary. Sometimes Apple can't figure out how to solve simple UI problems. When they even bother to try, their "solution" is an overly complicated, unrelia…

Apple is smart enough to recognise that people want to turn off things for different reasons, and give you different options - to permanently turn off the transceiver hardware, or to disable various services.

Not in this case. The person who drills down into his settings to REALLY turn something off really wants to turn it off. So Apple should respect that, and treat the control-panel on/off as persistent in that case.

That would serve everyone's preferences and reasons: People who only turn the stuff off from the control panel would get the temporary behavior of those controls. People who turn them off at the system level would get the persistent behavior.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Yeah, it's pathetic. Here's your standard NextDoor headline: HOMELESS MAN LOOKED AT MY DOG AGGRESSIVELY Then you have a bunch of insipid suck-ups piling on in the comments, with "Oh I'm so sorry this happened to you!" "So glad you're OK!"

That just sounds like old people talking to each other, I don't see the problem. That kind of small-talk would be commonplace in any small-town diner. In a quiet neighborhood where nothing happens, literally anything is gossip-worthy. Not every online has to be maximally interesting content, sometimes it's fine if it's just old people talking about the weather.

Or, in many cases, you could view it as mollycoddling and encouraging hysteria and NIMBYism.

It doesn't have to be interesting, but the endless repetition of the same caterwauling need not be fawned over and encouraged.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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If you have your own domain, Fastmail will let you set a wildcard rule and anyrandomthing@yourdomain.com will hit the mailbox, no further config necessary.

but can you then set those wildcards to bounce later?

I make rules to treat ones that offend like spam

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Jesus. That is some proper scifi dystopian stuff. Any employees on here? How do you live with yourselves?

It even uses 'for the greater good' as the tagline. I guess they haven't seen Hot Fuzz[1]? [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm--inJtnc4

My favorite part is "Your world is safer with Citizen" superimposed over a photo of One World Trade Center.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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How can I remove my email from their database if I never opened an account? Once I lived in New York city and thought I will use this service but then I moved out. Unfortunately I started to signing in. Then they wanted to send me a confirmation snail mail. But I don't live there any more. And my registration is stuck in a limbo since like 10 years. I can't login because I have no password nor confirmation that I live in the NYC...

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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post #131

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I don't know how Nextdoor "seeks out people" to moderate, but what I can tell you is that my previous community lead was a guy who didn't post at all for like 2 years. My new community lead is me, somehow, even though I didn't post for almost as long. 99% of my posts even now are basically, "hey, can you guys please read the rules before making yet another post about a suspicious black dude who's obviously up to no g…

"Somehow"? How are these community leads assigned?

When a neighborhood is created, the person who does so automatically becomes a lead; I believe that was the case for the guy who was lead before. Aside from that, I have no idea.
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