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Post by coder543 »

imposterr wrote: post #169
caycep wrote: post #158

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There was some dock from a 3rd party vendor that let you do more screens, but I can't remember which one...

There are a few. They are able to do this by using something called Display Stream Compression. While it may be find for some, a lot of us would prefer not to have a diminished experience with a compressed stream.

Display Stream Compression (DSC) is fine. It is not a "diminished experience". DSC is visually lossless.

Instead, those docks use a technology called DisplayLink which has nothing to do with DSC. DisplayLink means that external monitors are basically "software" displays that are tremendously slower and often very limited in resolutions and frame rates. Having any DisplayLink display connected also breaks HDCP and can cause other problems.

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Post by ig-88ms »

ccouzens wrote: post #171
conductr wrote: post #147

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Does the 13" MBP support multiple displays? Sorry- I'm horrible at reading Apple Specs and inferring the capabilities

just the one external screen (two screens total including internal). https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/ People have gotten round it by connecting additional screens using display link adapters.

Display Link is alrightish for light office work or coding. But not much else.

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Post by pdpi »

dougmwne wrote: post #72
cloudengineer94 wrote: post #48

Still only supports one display. Also they increased the prices across the board.. Quite happy with my M1 Pro, a beat and a hell of a purchase.

Wait, you can't extend the display to a second screen?

Only supports one external display, as opposed to the 14"/16" machines that can do maybe 3 or 4?

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Post by deltaonefour »

bogwog wrote: post #188
colinmhayes wrote: post #173

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Apple's whole thing is simplicity/"just works". Modular designs are pretty much the opposite of that. They've been proven right too. The vast majority of people don't want to slot in their own parts.

> They've been proven right too. The vast majority of people don't want to slot in their own parts. How have they been “proven right”? Correlation is not causation. Just because they’re highly successful and they ship integrated components doesn’t mean the two are related.

What has been proven is that consumers don't care about customization too much.

If they want it, they don't want it that much.

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Post by edgefield »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #203
anonymouse008 wrote: post #105

It's very interesting to think the processor releases were holding back the Mac for so long. They are on the cusp on turning Macs into annual upgrades - with meaningful performance upgrades tied to the OS, just like they've done for a decade with the A series / iOS releases. This is firing on all cylinders. The organizational structure and performance is a marvel for this.

> It's very interesting to think the processor releases were holding back the Mac for so long. Apple also made a huge leap forward with their cooling designs. Making the laptop thicker and investing in proper cooling design made a huge difference. My M1 laptop is significantly quieter than my old Intel laptop at the same power consumption level. It’s not even close. Apple’s last generation chassis and cooling solutio…

100% agree. The last generation of MacBook pros with intel processors were virtually unusable for zoom calls or any intensive processing power tasks.

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Post by gwbas1c »

smoldesu wrote: post #127
anonymouse008 wrote: post #105

It's very interesting to think the processor releases were holding back the Mac for so long. They are on the cusp on turning Macs into annual upgrades - with meaningful performance upgrades tied to the OS, just like they've done for a decade with the A series / iOS releases. This is firing on all cylinders. The organizational structure and performance is a marvel for this.

Counterpoint: M2 is a tock release, not a tick. This is pretty much the same behavior that ended up getting Intel shot in the foot: leaning too heavily on marginal performance increases from process enhancement will bite you in the butt when your competitors get their tech on your node. Intel and AMD are both going to be on 5nm in 2023, Apple should be pretty worried if this is what they're fighting with. 3nm isn't e…

Spend a few minutes talking with someone who designs hardware. Often when they release something, there are TONs of incremental improvements that they just didn't have time to get to when a new product is released.

I remember having a conversation with someone who worked on hard drives in the 80s. He got so ^%$^$# excited telling me about all the improvements he worked on between generations; they were mostly things like tighter calibrations, and refinements.

Point being: Don't knock releases like this.

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Post by samstave »

bogwog wrote: post #188
colinmhayes wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's whole thing is simplicity/"just works". Modular designs are pretty much the opposite of that. They've been proven right too. The vast majority of people don't want to slot in their own parts.

> They've been proven right too. The vast majority of people don't want to slot in their own parts. How have they been “proven right”? Correlation is not causation. Just because they’re highly successful and they ship integrated components doesn’t mean the two are related.

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