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Please stop disabling zoom

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Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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post #161

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What's strange about that is that a collection of old devices is very cheap. It's trivial to have a box and test them.

"People using those devices are not our target demographic."

Then they complain that people in that demographic don't use their product. Because it turns out that people in that demographic exist and they're trapped in a bubble where anyone who is using an old device is a child, elderly person or homeless.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Oh god. this, yes please, I got a mild sight disability and the zoom helps doing my work fast, the amount of times zoom was disabled it was just awfull, and in some cases parts of the site (ex: big tables) cannot be read properly.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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My pet theory: I'm pretty sure this is because when HTML5 became a thing, some major tech blog showed us what an HTML5 page would look like (simplified doctype, meta charset) and they included the viewport settings that disabled zoom. Then pretty much everyone copied from these guides, and here we are. I remember I had used HTML5 skeleton templates for a while before I learned that the "maximum-scale=1, user-scalable…

I can confirm that theory. I wrote my own HTML5 template for my blog when HTML5 was pretty fresh. I don't recall where I exactly got the boilerplate from. I thought it might have been html5boilerplate.com, but I just checked the v1.0 tag and that doesn't prevent zooming in. But I definitely took the tag from someone and just applied it without knowing what it does.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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As a disabled person, I totally recoiled and revulsed at the OP’s audacity and emboldeness to demand how other should behave toward him. I would never pull someone down to sit down to my eye level if in a wheelchair, never. I would never pull someone closer to me so I can read lips better. And certainly I would never remotely pull them to something that I want, as in this case, digital remote camera. However, it is a…

I'm so sorry, I'm not 100% sure I understand this comment. Would you mind explaining what you mean by asking others to adjust for your sake in the context of mobile web accessibility? I'm having trouble connecting it to the content of the article. I'm not the writer, but would love to better understand your point of view here.

Ah, remote zooming is being given in a different context.

I had thought it was about allowing other people to play with the gimbal and focus and that kind of “zoom” … of a remote camera variety. My bad.

Still, asking others to adjust is a nice thing. Demanding to do things on their end, not so much.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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post #160

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A simple rule: Minimum font size >= Age of oldest attendee

What about giving websites and web apps the ability to detect the font size preference of the user to automatically adjust the font size? Just like native apps do...?

What do you mean?

Browsers are native apps, so they already do that for websites.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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post #88

What's the rational for not wanting websites and web apps to disable zoom, and not complaining about all native apps doing it? Would these people want to be able to zoom in native apps as well? Or is there a reason it's fine in native apps but not on the web?

"Not being a concern troll."

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Yes it is silly. The article actually ends with some useful tips: As a user, you can force allow zooming: In Firefox find the settings, select “Accessibility” and activate “Zoom on all website” In Chrome find the settings, select “Accessibility” and check “Force enable zoom”

Unfortunately this also disables it on sites where it makes sense. For example I have a simple tool to pick a random person or split people into groups https://playerone.kevincox.ca/ Without zoom disabled 5 people putting their fingers on a screen looks a lot like a pinch gesture. Disabling the default event handlers only works some of the time. This is a common problem with the web, we can't have nice things because…

That tool is a gem! I didn't have many situations where I could have used this during the past two years, but things seem to become a little better now.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Unfortunately people see accessibility as a burden that a small minority puts on the rest of us, but really it is something that benefits everyone. For instance, normally sighted people or even people with "normal" nearsightedness, farsightedness, or presbyopia benefit from adequate contrast. Text "size" is another thing because people should be able to control it, particularly given the wide range of different devic…

I have the default font size boosted slightly. A large percentage of web sites and applications don't work with it, the text is cut off. Even ones from Microsoft. The irony is you have to work to get this to not work. HTML by default will render just fine. Developers just can't resist customizing it so it doesn't work. My web sites use plain HTML as much as possible. They're derided for being "Web 1.0", but they work…

Android can't even render all of its own system UI widgets if you choose one of its larger built-in font size options on a Google phone.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Apple gets a lot of criticism for its alleged hostility towards developers. I agree with some of that criticism! But this is a perfect example of Apple taking the side of the user when developers are hostile towards users. I’ve only used iPhones for years and I didn’t even realize this was still a problem for smartphone users!

You can force-enable zoom in pretty much all browsers, it's part of the accessibility settings. You don't need an Iphone.
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