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Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by nsteel »

dylan522p wrote: post #55
mschuster91 wrote: post #4

Samsung losing out to Mediatek is pretty hilarious on its own, given that Mediatek was once known for ultra-cheap, piss poor performing crap [1] and copyright issues [2]. Back some years when I had one of the first CAT rugged phones, which was based on Mediatek, I happened to look at a kernel code dump from them on Github and had I known back then what I know today I could have easily netted me some decent payout for…

MediaTek is killing it. They hired a lot of people from TSMC's process development kit teams which vastly improved their capabilities in integrating IP. They were the first to develop AV1 decode, their modems are pretty decent. They even have leading teams in wifi.

It won't take much to be better to work with than brcm so let's hope they keep going.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

selimthegrim wrote: post #215
BlueMatter5 wrote: post #196

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White is a ethnicity now?

Well yeah, we tend to get lumped into a single group because many of us being privileged apparently means that none of us are discriminated against.

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Post by taspeotis »

guipsp wrote: post #160
taspeotis wrote: post #142

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You turn it off with the power button? Good lord, how arcane.

You need to hold it

Yes, I read the comment I replied to. You turn it off with the power button. By holding it.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by dTal »

jiggawatts wrote: post #141
ornornor wrote: post #137

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I've worked elsewhere. Samsung is in the bottom tier for every dimension that matters to quality (of life and of products).

As a data point: Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc… all try to have calibrated TVs that match the director’s intent. As in, the colours and contrast are defined in the standards, and they strive to show them accurately. They do cheat a little bit and have a “demo” mode the cranks up the saturation and brightness in store to compensate for the overhead lighting. Samsung takes that cheating to 11 and there is no way to turn it…

>the colours and contrast are defined in the standards, and they strive to show them accurately

Not to defend Samsung, but this isn't such an objectively straightforward task as you make it sound. It's impossible, in the general case, to convert colors from one colorspace to another without information loss. So there's an element of subjectivity and judgement in selecting the algorithm used. In other words, they're all "enhanced", and your complaint is simply that Samsung has poor taste.

Of course this all assumes that the display is doing its own color management. This is exactly what you want with a standalone TV, but for a computer display you really want to just provide the computer with the ICC profile and give it the lowest-level access to the pixel values possible, so that the user can assume control over the rendering intent - for that you'd want some kind of "direct mode". It's quite right to criticize Samsung if they do not offer such a mode, but are the other brands any better? The trend for TVs seems to lead away from being good general purpose displays, and towards being standalone devices.

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Post by jiggawatts »

dTal wrote: post #224
jiggawatts wrote: post #141

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As a data point: Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc… all try to have calibrated TVs that match the director’s intent. As in, the colours and contrast are defined in the standards, and they strive to show them accurately. They do cheat a little bit and have a “demo” mode the cranks up the saturation and brightness in store to compensate for the overhead lighting. Samsung takes that cheating to 11 and there is no way to turn it…

>the colours and contrast are defined in the standards, and they strive to show them accurately Not to defend Samsung, but this isn't such an objectively straightforward task as you make it sound. It's impossible, in the general case, to convert colors from one colorspace to another without information loss. So there's an element of subjectivity and judgement in selecting the algorithm used. In other words, they're a…

> the general case, to convert colors from one colorspace to another without information loss.

Even in the general case that's not true for new televisions: These typically convert from a smaller space to a large one, which can be done 100% losslessly and accurately as intended.

This is quite common, because as TV panel capabilities have largely outstripped the distribution and encoding standards. For example, Rec.709 (the HD standard) is smaller than what any modern 4K TV can display.

The 4K Rec.2020 standard is huge, but it only exceeds typical panel capabilities along the green axis. This may seem like conversion would be lossy, but if you look carefully at video metadata, it ofen specifies that the "content gamut" is smaller. That is, most modern 4K HDR content is mastered on a display that "merely" has a gamut like Display P3, so that's all you need to reproduce it 1:1.

None of this is done by Samsung. They always stretch colours up to the maximum capability of the panel. These days, that's very close to the full Rec.2020 gamut and looks downright garish. Even if "AI enhanced" or whatever, it's wrong. Colours are distorted and nowhere near the original intent.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Post by booi »

bee_rider wrote: post #172
ineedasername wrote: post #86

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Semiconductors is a space where mistakes take a while to bit you. Although as we've seen with AMD, it is possible to come back from them. With the right course correction, Samsung is diversified enough to tough things out. Didn't they have a massive turnaround sometime in the 80's too?

AMD completely left the semiconductor manufacturing space and it took them like a decade to get their chip designs in a good place.

You can also read that as trying to do both might be too broad for a smaller company to tackle. Apple is a clear example of how chip design and chip manufacturing don't need to be linked and may in fact hinder.

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Post by macintux »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #161
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This is an odd stance to take. Just look at Boeing. Unless you were directly involved with Boeing, you likely weren't aware of the cultural issues in the company. Up until the Max crisis, it looked like a successful, well-run business. Cultural issues can fester for a long time and get worse and worse before they finally reveal themselves in poor performance, accidents or other issues later on. In Boeing's case, it's…

Al Jazeera did an investigation into Boeing ages ago (I think pre 2013) that convinced me there were problems.

My memory is fairly poor, but I'm confident I'd heard complaints about management's move out of Seattle and the resulting disconnect with engineering causing problems for many years.

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Post by selimthegrim »

moistly wrote: post #194
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My argument is that few people are aware of how barbaric many aspects of Aboriginal culture were. This was not some flawless society to be fawned over and emulated, as modern woke scholars might have you believe, this was a culture rife with violence, rape, torture and cannibalism. Only last week I read a primary account from a settler describing an Aboriginal practice where a stick would be tipped with a various mak…

Tell me you know nothing of colonization without telling me you know nothing about colonization. Massive massacres of unarmed people across the entire expanse of the empire, raping of children ‘round the world, deliberately slow torture as punishment before death, the whole gamut of sick and depraved actions, every bit as cruel and barbaric as anything you can claim against the aborigine, carried out by your “rescuin…

He should also look up what was done to female thralls before Norse chief's funerals before he stays on his high and mighty horse.

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Post by Sakos »

macintux wrote: post #227
cjbgkagh wrote: post #161

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Al Jazeera did an investigation into Boeing ages ago (I think pre 2013) that convinced me there were problems.

My memory is fairly poor, but I'm confident I'd heard complaints about management's move out of Seattle and the resulting disconnect with engineering causing problems for many years.

I've heard about issues coming out of Samsung for years too. I don't think these are things nobody knows about, but often they're not exactly common knowledge. Often it's hearsay and rumours from unconfirmed sources with the occasional article that goes under in all the noise or is otherwise brushed aside by the larger public. It's very hard to judge how accurate or relevant a certain news report is, or how biased or misinformed it might be, so it's easier to dismiss it.

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Post by dylan522p »

tomatowurst wrote: post #113
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It's at the bottom of every article. I have to disclose given my relationship with various funds. I am under no impression that my articles can move fucking Samsung's stock. That's hilarious you think I could profit off the market by writing this. There's plenty of evidence though. Be an industry insider and you'd recognize it all. I do know that my reports have moved smaller companies stocks by 20% in a single day,…

> no impression that my articles can move fucking Samsung's stock > I do know that my reports have moved smaller companies stocks by 20% in a single day seems like a weird contradiction. you really think a disclaimer can protect you here? Like many of us pointed out, you've made quite a bold, unsubstantiated claims with poorly cited evidence. You've admitted that your writing in the past have moved the targeted compa…

If you don't want to believe it. Go ahead. The major claims are true, Qualcomm moving away. Nvidia moving away. DRAM node ramps being pitiful. DRAM engineering efforts come directly from a source there.

The cultural issues being the cause of these issues is the substantial claim.

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