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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by dan-robertson »

kdmccormick wrote: post #82
tayo42 wrote: post #27

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I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours and told me its my problem. Like maybe if you got a full night of sleep you wouldn't be so angry? I guess this study supports that. The noise in my current apartment is endless, car alarms, screaming and crying kids along with their loud toys, idling cars, the…

> instruments being practiced As a musician... although I understand that, in the end, instrument practice is still noise, it hurts to see this listed among the rest of your items. Last year, I had to move out of an apartment complex because our neighbors would not tolerate even 30 minutes of practice a day (in spite of the ~2 daily hours of lawn care racket, but whatever) and complained to building management. I get…

One thing I really liked about university was catching faint snippets of music being played as I walked around. But maybe this is due to not being bothered by people practicing scales in dedicated insulated basement music practice rooms, so I would only infrequently hear ~full pieces being practised.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by patrickk »

drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

Germany too. You can find noise maps[1] with measurements for all kinds of noise, including car noise, aircraft noise, industrial noise, etc. This allows you to make a more informed decision when renting or buying a new home.

In the area around Frankfurt airport (FRA) there is ongoing noise monitoring[2] to make sure that the noise doesn't constantly exceed the agreed limits. The aircraft can only fly between 6am-11pm daily, in one of Europe's busiest airports. The local residents won a court case against the airport, so they are entitled to free triple-glazed windows, and a device installed into the wall to extract CO2-heavy air from the house interior (important for sealed off bedrooms).

There are restrictions on noisy activities you can do at certain hours[3], such as hoovering your place, blasting your Hi-Fi or car stereo. Initially, I thought it was overly restrictive, but it's the best way of ensuring people can live densely and not go insane from inconsiderate neighbours.

Finally, apartments are generally thick concrete walls with high-quality windows and doors, both interior and exterior. Interior doors are usually solid material, with a rubber-lined bezel creating an acoustic and thermal seal between the door and the frame. I wasn't used to that before moving to Germany, it's quite impressive and definitely improves your living quality in an apartment.

[1] https://laerm.hessen.de/mapapps/resources/apps/laerm/index.h...

[2] https://www.fraport.com/en/environment/noise-abatement.html

[3] https://www.german-way.com/many-kinds-of-noise-vielerlei-lae...

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by reydequeso »

ray__ wrote: post #156
spaetzleesser wrote: post #129

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Pumping gas? Have some meaningless commercials blaring at you. Wait at the doctors? Have some hospital commercials blaring at you. A/C systems are often brutally loud.

Pro tip: one of the grey unlabeled buttons next to the screens on gas pumps mutes the audio. Muting those ads every time I pump gas feels like a subversive act in a dystopian Bladerunner-esqe society where ads are inescapable unless you know the hacks.

Yes, it is usually the 2nd button from the top. I've usually found it on the right side.

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Post by lemax »

drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

Noise is also a big part of certain cultures/contexts though. Blanket rules around noise levels could be unfair if they don't provide a venue for noisey folks somewhere. In Brooklyn, for example, there are neighborhoods and entire buildings that revolve around loudness, inhabited by musicians, artists, and boisterous young people who stay up all hours. For example, in the McKibbin lofts in Bushwick, Brooklyn, like many buildings in the area, people are implicitly party to a social contract of accepting noise levels unacceptable to most people. If noise becomes more regulated, room must be kept for the nuances and exceptions that are culturally significant to smaller communities within larger cities. A lot of important cultural production comes out of these spaces.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by ajuc »

adhesive_wombat wrote: post #219
ajuc wrote: post #184

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It's banned in all Polish cities I've been to. And for a good reason. Half the problems with America seems to be lack of regulation and the assumption that it can't be changed :)

America fascinates me because half of the time things are functionally unregulated, and the other half of the time there's a law about Kinder Eggs and the exact height your lawn must be.

We're playing Call of Cthulhu pen&paper RPG campaign set in modern USA. Our DM has to check the laws in each state often, and usually it derails the session by how completely absurd it is.

Like our party was able to carry a bazooka around openly in one state :)

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by sarchertech »

ajuc wrote: post #192
sarchertech wrote: post #143

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Sure, but neither do suburbs. You could mandate everyone drive electric vehicles with tires optimized for low road noise.

Tesla going 90 km/h is almost as noisy as regular car going 90 km/h. Engine noise only dominates at low speeds.

1. Notice I said tires optimized for road noise. 2. Most suburban homes in the US are far enough from roads with 55 mph speed limits that high speed road noise isn’t penetrating the home.
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