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What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by wiz21c »

karencarits wrote: post #107
jonpalmisc wrote: post #93

I almost wish I never tried Emacs. Ignorance is bliss, and Emacs ruined all other text editors for me. There are absolutely areas that others do better, but the self-documenting “living program” nature is too much to give up; everything you ever need to know or do is a few keystrokes away.

How did you approach Emacs to make it such a valuable tool? I have tried to get started with Emacs a few times but the initial resistance has been too large

For me things started to get interesting once I set up CUA mode to have the same key shortcuts as in the usual Windows world (ctrl-C for copy, ctrl-V for paste and so on). Once I got that I was able to work on text file, programs etc. Then I slowly added packages (took months) as I was needing/discovering them. And now, what I like is that I can use the same configuration on Linxu and windows (I switch often between my work PC in my home PC). Org mode is really usefull although I just get the bare minimum. LSP makes a difference too. And the community is great: so much things happen all the time. The openness really makes a big difference. So in the end, I love it :-)

(and I don't like modal editors :-) )

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by alyandon »

gaze wrote: post #108
jonpalmisc wrote: post #93

I almost wish I never tried Emacs. Ignorance is bliss, and Emacs ruined all other text editors for me. There are absolutely areas that others do better, but the self-documenting “living program” nature is too much to give up; everything you ever need to know or do is a few keystrokes away.

I’ve been using emacs on and off for about 20 years and I don’t really get the fanaticism. Org mode and magit and all these things are cool. I like that you can hack it. But — to me it never stops feeling like an ongoing project when you try to live your entire life in it. I like it obviously otherwise I wouldn’t still be using it, but it will never exactly feel elegant to me. More like a good text editor and a hundr…

I forced myself to use emacs for about 6 months coming from IDEs and vi(m) to get past the "this is unfamiliar" stage.

At the end of the day, it was a very nice text editor with a development environment embedded in it and the ability to tweak things to my work flows was certainly interesting. However, I never enjoyed the seemingly unintuitive default key bindings and I often found myself disappearing into rabbit holes and tweaking stuff just to make everything work more smoothly. Ultimately, I decided that was time I should have been spending on more productive pursuits.

To this day though, I don't regret giving emacs a spin and I still swap caps lock and ctrl on all my systems. Remapping that key binding is helpful for so many things outside of emacs.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by jpeloquin »

pen2l wrote: post #54
rayiner wrote: post #17

I was an Emacs user back in my software writing days, but I thought I had left it behind when I became a lawyer. Over the past month or two however I’ve moved more and more of my workflow over to Emacs. I started with using Org Mode and PDF tools for note taking and reviewing PDFs and task management: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30492373 . More recently I switched my email over to mu4e: https://www.emacswiki…

Are you using viper or evil-mode often (or some other thing which gives emacs vi bindings, I think there are a couple)? Because navigating text with emacs gives me the emacs pinky, I'm wondering how folks deal with that. Transposed cpslck with ctrl?

I remapped control to the bottom row, whichever key my thumb naturally rests on. Usually alt. Also moved \, [, ], enter, and backspace to avoid reaching for them with my right pinky. I think if your fingers start feeling even a little bit weird, you should keep remapping keys until they feel good all the time. Doesn't make sense to wait for it to get worse before taking action.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by antiframe »

novocantico wrote: post #196
antiframe wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that VSCode is missing the number one critical feature of Emacs: the ability to inspect and change the program as it's running.

Sure you can. Open up your VS Code extension in a VS Code window and live-debug it. I'd bet the process is probably very similar when editing VS Code yourself, but the point of the extension system is that you usually shouldn't have to.

That's cool. The one thing I missed in VS Code when I last used it a few years ago was a link to the implementation in the documentation of each function. Maybe I will give it a try again someday. But honestly giving up Magit, org-mode, slime, and elpy will be hard.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by novocantico »

antiframe wrote: post #224
novocantico wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you can. Open up your VS Code extension in a VS Code window and live-debug it. I'd bet the process is probably very similar when editing VS Code yourself, but the point of the extension system is that you usually shouldn't have to.

That's cool. The one thing I missed in VS Code when I last used it a few years ago was a link to the implementation in the documentation of each function. Maybe I will give it a try again someday. But honestly giving up Magit, org-mode, slime, and elpy will be hard.

One pretty decent Magit alternative I found was lazygit. For a long time after quitting Magit/Emacs I just used git's CLI, but lazygit is pretty great.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by charesjrdan »

dv35z wrote: post #122

I’m interested in emacs / org-mode / org-roam. My goal is to have a local notes solution (replacing Obsidian, Apple Notes), and have the notes automatically published on the web as a crosslinked personal knowledge base. I have somewhat achieved this with Obsidian/markdown files + git + Hugo + Render. I write stuff. Check it into git. Push, and it deploys as a website. Feel pretty good about cobbling that together. Bu…

Craft.do is a good solution to your problem if you don’t mind closed source.

I personally have started using logseq.com though, it is a good fully open source file system based approach. It supports markdown and org mode, and I store the files in an iCloud Drive folder so I can access stuff on my phone (though it’s not quite as slick as craft, and setting up an auto deployed website would have to be done manually whereas craft does it for you)

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by [deleted] »

viksit wrote: post #133

Given all the emacs ninjas here - what’s the best way to do JSX/TSX formatting while playing nice with js2-mode, tide and web-mode? I’ve been stuck for months on finding a good config and almost wanted to move to VS Code to try it out. Then, while using it I just couldn’t do without emacs buffers and panels flexibility — so moved back :))

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Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by pzone »

karencarits wrote: post #107
jonpalmisc wrote: post #93

I almost wish I never tried Emacs. Ignorance is bliss, and Emacs ruined all other text editors for me. There are absolutely areas that others do better, but the self-documenting “living program” nature is too much to give up; everything you ever need to know or do is a few keystrokes away.

How did you approach Emacs to make it such a valuable tool? I have tried to get started with Emacs a few times but the initial resistance has been too large

Spacemacs

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by pzone »

asoneth wrote: post #147

I aspired to learn Emacs but gave up a number of times. It's in that category of things that I believe would be Good For Me but that have such high activation energy that it never becomes a high enough priority. It's like the documentary I keep skipping over in my streaming queue, the free weights gathering dust in the basement, or the guitar I finally gave away after having only learned a few chords. There's got to…

The best reason to use Emacs is that it’s fun. Would you learn the guitar because it’s “good for you” to learn it or because you enjoy playing music? I think the only sustainable motivation is the latter. If learning Emacs is simply a chore with an abstract promise of “productivity” as a reward you’re not missing out on anything.

Re: What’s new in Emacs 28.1?

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Post by charcircuit »

b3morales wrote: post #151
charcircuit wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If it takes an IDE to write your code, then it will likely take an IDE to read your code There is nothing wrong with this. We shouldn't let old text editors hold back the productivity of programmers.

It's not "old text editors". There are current tools for viewing source (pull requests/diffs a prime example) that are extremely good at what they do but are language agnostic. As is so often said, code is read more than it's written . If I can't understand the source without pulling it into my IDE, that adds a lot of friction to these reading tasks.

Those other tools you work with can become more advanced to in order to keep up with the improvements your IDE offers. You want to inline a diagram to your code? That image should show up both in your editor and in the diff.
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