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Re: Start Self Hosting

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Post by psYchotic »

teekert wrote: post #170

I love selfhosting. Right now I have this in my personal docker-compose.yaml: NextCould (3 installs, each their own MariaDB instance), HomeAssistant, Mosquitto, Vaultwarden, an Nginx served static website, Unifi controller, nzbget, Samba, librespeed, Wireguard, 4 MineCraft servers, AdGuard home, FoundryVTT and Traefik as reverse proxy for https (it's all 1 yaml file, everything! At least, excluding the HA config etc)…

My hosting stack seems to be similar to yours. In addition to the services themselves, I run a watchtower container to check for new images for me, which then notifies me through yet another selfhosted solution: gotify. I have watchtower setup not to automatically recreate the containers (I've been bitten by postgres updates a few times too many).

Speaking of Wireguard: I've been looking for a web-based management interface to define Wireguard networks with (using the server it runs on as a sort of central "hun"), but haven't yet found anything I really like and/or found simple enough to use. What does your Wireguard setup look like?

Watchtower: https://github.com/containrrr/watchtower Gotify: https://github.com/gotify/server

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Post by jjnoakes »

asdff wrote: post #196
jjnoakes wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That helps for external threats breaking into buggy network services, but it doesn't help for compromised apps/images/dependencies exfiltrating your secrets.

A compromised app on a local network has no one to phone home to.

If it's an air-gapped local network, then sure, but how useful is that? Are you disconnecting your phone/laptop from the internet when you access the air-gapped network, or do you use two network interfaces on every device?

I assumed the GP was talking about a typical home "local network", one behind a NAT - so no incoming traffic, but usually, it allows any outgoing traffic.

Re: Start Self Hosting

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Post by teekert »

psYchotic wrote: post #221
teekert wrote: post #170

I love selfhosting. Right now I have this in my personal docker-compose.yaml: NextCould (3 installs, each their own MariaDB instance), HomeAssistant, Mosquitto, Vaultwarden, an Nginx served static website, Unifi controller, nzbget, Samba, librespeed, Wireguard, 4 MineCraft servers, AdGuard home, FoundryVTT and Traefik as reverse proxy for https (it's all 1 yaml file, everything! At least, excluding the HA config etc)…

My hosting stack seems to be similar to yours. In addition to the services themselves, I run a watchtower container to check for new images for me, which then notifies me through yet another selfhosted solution: gotify. I have watchtower setup not to automatically recreate the containers (I've been bitten by postgres updates a few times too many). Speaking of Wireguard: I've been looking for a web-based management in…

I use this image: ghcr.io/linuxserver/wireguard [0]. Under environment I can set the number of peers and it simply spits out that number of peerX.conf files and QR-codes (as PNG), which I then manually set up on the different devices. Not really simple but also not complicated. I hear a lot of good things about tailscale and I feel like I have to start playing with that...

Oh, gotify looks really nice, I'm still looking for something like that. I'd love to be able to receive notification for events in my house (as detected by Home Assistant for example).

[0]: https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-wireguard

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Post by p_j_w »

denton-scratch wrote: post #189
sylware wrote: post #171

Bringing self hosting to lambda users is _REALLY_ hard and Big Tech won't let you do it too easily. Many corp email smtp servers will IP block your email server (big thanks to spamhaus), or won't support no-DNS email address and servers (which is RFC from the start) or won't have the decency to handle grey listing or will send all your emails to their spam boxes (gogol) even though ppl did remove your emails from the…

> Many corp email smtp servers will IP block your email server (big thanks to spamhaus) Nope. Spamhaus doesn't block self-hosted email servers. Spamhaus just publishes a number of lists, which postmasters can use or not, whether for filtering or just for scoring. The PBL in particular is likely to catch people self-hosting from a retail connection, because it lists most residential IP address-space. But it's the rece…

GP never said Spamhaus blocks anything.

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Post by Havoc »

kerblang wrote: post #39

You know what would be kind of neat? Like, a web site you'd go to called makemeoneofthose.com, and you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup that you own with some software, web server(s) and database(s) on it, and then you can go hack on it yourself, add some features, whatever. Like they send you some AWS keys and say "It's all yours. Good luck and don't forget to pay your hosting…

>you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup

Docker-compose comes pretty close to this. I had no idea wtf I was doing when I got started and it resulted in a functional thing surprisingly often

Not quite the SaaS vision you describe, but point is you can stumble into something functional pretty easily these days

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Post by asim »

jart wrote: post #215
asim wrote: post #38

If you really want mainstream adoption of self hosting then you need to stop calling it self hosting and rebrand to "personal cloud". The ease of use of cloud software includes zero install, zero management and consumption based pricing. Desktop and mobile had hardware packaged with software and a simple install mechanism with ease of use as a staple for mainstream users. Self hosting has zero standardisation around…

That's what Western Digital does with their "My Cloud" product line and honestly it makes me cringe.

That's because its a product by western digital. No one wants that. Let's put it like this. Cloud 1.0 was infrastructure, Cloud 2.0 was services, Cloud 3.0 is personal/private.

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Post by ptman »

cubesnooper wrote: post #3
spansoa wrote: post #2

I haven't tried it, but Piwigo[0] looks promising for photo albums & management. That or Ente[1] although Ente doesn't have a self-hosting option like Piwigo. If you really want true self hosting you would run it off your own on-prem machine and use your ISP to push & pull content. Putting things on a VPS is not really 'self' hosting as you're entrusting a third party to not get their datacenter burned down, or the h…

> That said, the only caveat to hosting in your own house is it could suffer a fire, and your data is wiped Well, there are other reasons to prefer using external hosting. Home connections are typically port‐filtered, have dynamic IP addresses, and have a low IP reputation, and your ISP selection is very limited. Whereas if using a VPS there are so many options that it’s easy to shop around. But you can still self‐ho…

Yes, and you can even do this quite cheaply. Oracle cloud free tier has a nice traffic allowance: https://paul.totterman.name/posts/free-clouds/ . Add tailscale/cloudflare tunnel/plain wireguard for connecting your home server to the cloud instance.

Re: Start Self Hosting

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Post by mxuribe »

roydivision wrote: post #201
sylware wrote: post #171

Bringing self hosting to lambda users is _REALLY_ hard and Big Tech won't let you do it too easily. Many corp email smtp servers will IP block your email server (big thanks to spamhaus), or won't support no-DNS email address and servers (which is RFC from the start) or won't have the decency to handle grey listing or will send all your emails to their spam boxes (gogol) even though ppl did remove your emails from the…

"lambda users"? I've not heard that term before.

Same here. Is that a synonym for a lay person?
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