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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Believing batshit crazy things isn't unique to rural areas. In fact, I'd say it's more common in cities simply because there are more people there. I know a woman who lives in Chicago who doesn't believe in dinosaurs. It's not a religious thing, it's just that dinosaurs don't fit into her mindset somehow. I dated a woman in New York (native New Yorker) whose entire family believed that the moon landings were fake. I…

Crazy is indeed everywhere. And when it is individual crazy, it likely doesn't matter much (and might even be helpful). However, organized , coordinated crazy is a problem, even more so when it is sufficiently organized and coordinated to become an effective player in our political system.

At one time, that weirdo didn't have anybody to talk to. So he wrote his weird ideas in a journal somewhere, and he'd maybe self-publish a book, and annoy people at the coffee shops with his ideas. Now the crazy finds friends. Somewhere out there in the internets is another weirdo who had your idea too.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Ban on Deep Learning is coming. It's going to be classified as a weapon and practitioners will need a background check/license to perform it.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…

I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the country and it’s nothing like the caricature you just mentioned. It is, though, safe, polite, and friendly. And people are happy to leave other people alone.

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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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For him the deep fakes will be used to make considerate and respectful comments, while the real videos will be the outrageous ones :-)

That might be the best way to make him do something. When he realizes that people think the fake video makes sense, he'll claim the video was real out of spite and start defending a reasonable position.

That is hilarious. Can we use deep fakes combined with trump's spite to move him closer toward the left??

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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To add on: - Largely inactive since 2019 until ~15 days ago. - Ukrainian with ML background[1] [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20083793#20093381 , Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210224044558/https://news.ycom...

> - Largely inactive since 2019 until ~15 days ago. I'm a lurker, sorry for that. > - Ukrainian with ML background[1] Thanks. I did finish Yandex's school of data science (2015-2018). I've been to Moscow in 2018 for their graduation ceremony. Edit: My remark about me visiting Moscow is to demonstrate that I did not harbor any anti-Russia sentiments.

No need to apologize for being a lurker!

The explanation that you found it and uploaded it makes perfect sense and clarifies things for me anyway.

Similar to GP, I read your post as though that Youtube video was the initial source, rather than something you uploaded.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Ban on Deep Learning is coming. It's going to be classified as a weapon and practitioners will need a background check/license to perform it.

hah! it would be funny to see politicians try that - not far from legislating Pi.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#227

Has there been any effort to introduce cryptographic signing of media in a way that makes it easy for viewers to validate authenticity?

and how do you verify the signature?

public key infrastructure has always stumbled over issues of authenticity, more than just indexing.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I'm surprised this sort of thing isn't done far more widely (and better).

Can anyone comment on reasons why it's not more widespread? Especially in social media, where provenance is nonexistent.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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The idea could also be to first post something obviously fake, in order to make everyone think, that their deep fake video tech is not addvanced enough to create really good fakes. Later they post something, where they put in maximum effort to make it seem real, having people think back to the previous fake and think: "Oh but this looks real and they are not able to produce better deep fakes than that other video."

The general class of 'They're pretending to be incompetent... as a trick!' theories about Russia all seem less likely by the day.

A trick? Doesn't make sense.. For what purpose? I think Russians have a really hard to to pretend to be weak, so for me this scenario was dead on arrival.

I had the feeling Russia hasn't used their best men and equipment yet, which also seem less likely bu the day

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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It’s always a bit of a shock to remember that “photographs lie!” goes back to the very beginning of photography. See this (probably) staged war photograph from 1855 — in Crimea, of all ironic places: https://petapixel.com/2012/10/01/famous-valley-of-the-shadow...

To be completely fair, we don't know that it was staged just for the photograph. We don't know who moved the cannonballs, or why they moved them. All we know is that there are two photographs, and that the one without the cannonballs on the road came first.

we can infer a little bit more than that. The framing of the two photographs is exactly the same (look at the two rocks in the lower right hand corner), and so that camera was almost certainly not moved between the frames. That seems pretty improbable to me if the cannonballs were actually delivered by cannons.
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