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We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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Where I was during uber's ascent, uber's defining value proposition was circumventing the artificial monopoly created by the taxi medallion system. This "disruption" was actually great, it shook up an industry that needed shaking up (ironically I now use cabs because they have become better than uber where I am. This would not be the case if uber never existed). But even if it did some good "disrupting", I think the…

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Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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It sounds more like a banking problem than an innovation problem.

I agree with that. Money seems to flow to "safe" products. Some minor iteration of payments, CRM, taxis or fitness. How do you fix it when the incentives are skewed towards quick bucks? Government pushing certain industries has worked for China. There'll be a lot of opposition to that in the US I'd imagine.

That's not even remotely accurate. There's a huge amount of investment capital flowing to other sectors. Just because people aren't posting about it on HN doesn't mean it's not happening.

https://www.crunchbase.com/

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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post #179

I’ve been using delivery apps on and off for the past few months. Between the promos I’ve received, I’ve gotten groceries delivered for less than the items cost let alone the gas and time to deliver them. I’ve had multiple food items delivered at a lower cost than me walking there and buying in store as well. Talking to a few drivers for the companies - its tough, but they make a decent amount in the city (4-7k a mon…

I think we will see crashes in food delivery eventually. As whole outside high margin items it doesn't make sense when you start to look at margin of restaurant, wage and operating costs of the delivery person and then the profit and cut for the platform, staffed by overpriced engineers, marketing people and executives...

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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> but in many other cases, they can do things that taxis can't. Like what?

Easily coordinate pre-paid transportation limited to your event as one: https://help.uber.com/riders/article/vouchers-for-events-faq...

I see that as pretty easy, ship pre-paid vouchers to participants or digital ones. Have them scanned and then billed to customer. Nothing complicated with big enough operators if they want to sell such service.

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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Where I was during uber's ascent, uber's defining value proposition was circumventing the artificial monopoly created by the taxi medallion system. This "disruption" was actually great, it shook up an industry that needed shaking up (ironically I now use cabs because they have become better than uber where I am. This would not be the case if uber never existed). But even if it did some good "disrupting", I think the…

What’s missed in these discussions is these regulations had a point to them. It’s obvious Uber driving around without passengers increases congestion. Really look at AirBnb, Bird, etc and they all offload externalities from the company and it’s customers to everyone around them.

When the basic building model is to break the law, chances are the law had a point and people are going to want a return to normal eventually. The only way they survive long term is if the general population feels it’s the new normal is a useful tradeoff. In the short term they can massively subsidize users, but long term the same basic economic reality sets in so they need some actual innovation.

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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The problem is incumbents get lazy and start profit-seeking. Competition is the only way we know to have a chance of fighting it. The taxi industry got away with ripping off customers and having terrible service for ages. In my country they would regularly overcharge or take longer routes. Or you call and they decide not to come, or you walk around waving your hands frantically at a taxi hoping they stop. As a touris…

>Reusable rockets were literally considered impossible a decade ago

And we have always been at war with Eastasia.

The Shuttle program was started in the 1970s. Reusable launch vehicles have never been considered impossible, merely inefficient.

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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The problem is incumbents get lazy and start profit-seeking. Competition is the only way we know to have a chance of fighting it. The taxi industry got away with ripping off customers and having terrible service for ages. In my country they would regularly overcharge or take longer routes. Or you call and they decide not to come, or you walk around waving your hands frantically at a taxi hoping they stop. As a touris…

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Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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> In the US, food insecurity has become an epidemic on college campuses.

Difficult to the article seriously when reading this. (And I did follow the link to read the academic paper referenced. Though I am not in the field, I thought it was terrible. By defining food insecurity down and needlessly conflating categories it attempts to make a real problem seem worse than it is by viewing it through an ill conceived lens.)

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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post #179

I’ve been using delivery apps on and off for the past few months. Between the promos I’ve received, I’ve gotten groceries delivered for less than the items cost let alone the gas and time to deliver them. I’ve had multiple food items delivered at a lower cost than me walking there and buying in store as well. Talking to a few drivers for the companies - its tough, but they make a decent amount in the city (4-7k a mon…

Those drivers are either unusual examples or they're lying about how much they make.

I've done gig driving work in the past and still pop in on driver forums once in a while. The majority of these people are lucky to make $10-15 an hour after expenses (less now with rising gas prices, which they don't get compensated for), and a large percentage of them are operating below that. The ones making actually decent money have either figured out how to game the system - which is a transitory phenomenon as operators figure out ways to claw that profit margin back - or found some kind of luxury niche which requires having an upfront advantage like an expensive vehicle.

The perks of 'setting your own hours' (which is basically a lie, if you're relying on this income you have to drive when there's demand) or 'not dealing with a boss/co-workers' (your clients are your bosses and plenty of them are horrible) really pale when you look at the overall reality. Such so-called perks are how they keep suckering math challenged drivers into a crap job with abysmal pay and no benefits, though, and despite the fact that they're an illusion it keeps working. There are huge numbers of drivers whose actual compensation is so low it would nauseate you.

Re: We must return to an economy fueled by innovation, rather than disruption

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The problem is incumbents get lazy and start profit-seeking. Competition is the only way we know to have a chance of fighting it. The taxi industry got away with ripping off customers and having terrible service for ages. In my country they would regularly overcharge or take longer routes. Or you call and they decide not to come, or you walk around waving your hands frantically at a taxi hoping they stop. As a touris…

you said profit seeking but I believe you meant rent seeking. All businesses profit seek, it's how you fund innovation after paying your bills.
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