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Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by 015a »

For me, its frustrating to not see an option without all the webcam, microphone, octuple speaker array, A13, 100w charging, TB hub, madness. I have to imagine that adds significant cost, and at $1600 we're not in the territory where this stuff can be included just 'cause.

I like it, but I imagine some professionals would like to do what Apple's marketing images all show; buy two, maybe even three. I'd love to have one with all that stuff, but not all of them need the bells and whistles; and there's value in having all your displays be identical, especially in work that needs color calibration (not to mention, it looks nice).

So, maybe I grab one if the reviews look solid. And hopefully in the future they release a version without all that extra stuff for closer to the $1200-$1300 an LG 5K ultrafine display can be had for.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by goosedragons »

dijit wrote: post #167
DCKing wrote: post #26

I like this announcement, because it means that there's a manufacturing line for proper HiDPI [1] displays running in some LG factory somewhere that third party manufactures like LG/Dell/Iiyama can hopefully use to give us some fresh good-looking 27" 5K desktop monitors. It boggles my mind how little attention very high pixel density displays have been getting from PC display manufacturers. I would also be first in l…

Apple have always been the first to push higher resolution devices for as long as I've been alive. Laptops in the early 2010's were stuck on 1336x768 until Apple kicked up a fuss about having "retina", same with phones which had comically low resolutions until Apple made a fuss about it with the iPhone 4. Sadly my eyes aren't as good as they used to be so I can't make a lot of use of the extra real-estate, but it alw…

The ThinkPad R50p had a QXGA screen (2048x1536) option back in 2003. Granted Windows had zilch support for it which is probably why it died. Even the base model was a 1600x1200 screen. And there was plenty of phones with 200+ ppi before the iPhone 4. I think it has more to do with higher PPI screens getting cheaper and Apple could just get more supply first...

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by gen220 »

techpression wrote: post #138
gen220 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not use a thunderbolt switch? In my home office, I've got two monitors and a switch to flick input between a personal machine and a work machine.

Do they actually work well (I actually want to know)? I once started looking into something like that and it seemed to be all pain and suffering to get it to work or it having weird behaviours. If you have a product that you know work I'm all ears, it would make my life a lot easier.

I currently do this with HDMIs (I somehow make do with a measley 4K monitors).

I assumed such a thing existed for thunderbolt but hadn't looked into it; it looks like you're right that this market is underdeveloped at present. Hopefully somebody does it! Or, the wisdom of HN will yield us some options.

Otherwise, if you're willing to settle for affordable retina-quality monitors, this is the one I use: https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B01LPNKFK0. Cribbed from this post which made the HN rounds not too long ago: https://www.caseyliss.com/2021/12/7/monitor-liss

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by rewtraw »

skadamat wrote: post #37

Sadly no HDMI or DisplayPort, so can't use it for Xbox. Sadly only 60 Hz Seems like a really gorgeous update to this old thing - https://www.adorama.com/lot27md5klb.html?utm_source=adl-gbas... I hope they do 4k@120hz in the next version!

just use an adapter... Thunderbolt / USB C gives you flexibility

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by bob1029 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #171
jjcm wrote: post #98

Awesome to see them finally putting out almost consumer friendly pricing displays. Few things I'm disappointed about though: - 60hz. For this price point I'd expect higher. - Thunderbolt 3. Interesting that they didn't bump to 4, given the Mac Studio is Thunderbolt 4. This means you wont be able to daisy chain the displays. - Lack of size options. Would love to see more variety here. After moving to an ultrawide form…

Yeah I don’t know what it is with everyone prioritizing pixels over refresh rate.. once you start using 100+hz 60hz starts to feel like a slide show. You can see mouse trails and scrolling is jerky and uncoordinated, it’s painful and insanely distracting.

To this day, 27" 1440p, 144hz IPS gaming monitors are still my favorite daily driver for any desktop productivity. And when I say favorite, I mean by an extremely large margin.

The amount of real estate you get with 2560x1440 is fantastic, and you can actually game on it at native resolution on older gen graphics. The pixel density of 27" @ 1440p is the epitome of goldilocks. Every single pixel is just the right amount of useful.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by yurishimo »

015a wrote: post #221

For me, its frustrating to not see an option without all the webcam, microphone, octuple speaker array, A13, 100w charging, TB hub, madness. I have to imagine that adds significant cost, and at $1600 we're not in the territory where this stuff can be included just 'cause. I like it, but I imagine some professionals would like to do what Apple's marketing images all show; buy two, maybe even three. I'd love to have on…

Except if you compare it to the LG 5K, it's worth the extra cost in build quality alone. The LG monitors are notorious pieces of junk with flaky connectors that come loose like clockwork.

The new Studio display is expensive, but I think the features somewhat justify the price compared to the "competition".

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by BoorishBears »

pedrocr wrote: post #158
BoorishBears wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This 5k 27" screens blows your 8k 65" screen out if the water at any reasonable viewing distance for a computer monitor... Nearly no one wants TVs for monitors, the evidence is LG's OLEDs which gamers will take 1440p ultrawides with infinitely worse picture quality over, just for the more reasonable form factor.

Setting the 8K screen farther away so it fills the same field of view will make it strictly better than the smaller 5K if you can manage it. Same view, more angular resolution and your eyes are focused farther away which reduces eye strain.

No it's not, which is why people take $2,000 1440p monitors still.

The "if you can manage it" part is an awkward setup usually with terrible ergonomics (a monitor too far away is worse for posture because you subconsciously tilt forward), it takes a ton of space, it looks hideous

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Forgive my for my bluntness, but I am soooo tired of every conversation about improving monitors being sidetracked by people act like using a TV-sized TV as a computer monitor is better than strictly anything.

It's like saying using your hand saw as a flat head screw driver is strictly better because it had a larger handle... as long as you can line it up in the screw.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by rewtraw »

yudlejoza wrote: post #214

How is this news? Apple has had the exact specs (27 in, 5K res) available since something like 5-7 years ago, both as a stand-alone monitor and as an iMac.

this is a new product.

sure, it may be a middle ground between the existing Pro XDR and 5K LG Ultrafine displays, but this is something that was just announced today, hence "news".

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by _ph_ »

bradlys wrote: post #200
techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Is this not quite niche? What about the environmental impact of adding extra ports that no one is going to use?

I would need to share the screen too between my laptop and my desktop mac, so, no. Homeoffice is a thing these days and that means, you need to connect a screen to your work computer. I would rather not have the additional USB ports on the screen (though they are nice) than not having a second input. And giving that the screen has an A13 on its own, it would have the ability for nice handling multiple inputs, e.g. PIP or nice switching of keyboard/mouse attached.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by cpuguy83 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #171
jjcm wrote: post #98

Awesome to see them finally putting out almost consumer friendly pricing displays. Few things I'm disappointed about though: - 60hz. For this price point I'd expect higher. - Thunderbolt 3. Interesting that they didn't bump to 4, given the Mac Studio is Thunderbolt 4. This means you wont be able to daisy chain the displays. - Lack of size options. Would love to see more variety here. After moving to an ultrawide form…

Yeah I don’t know what it is with everyone prioritizing pixels over refresh rate.. once you start using 100+hz 60hz starts to feel like a slide show. You can see mouse trails and scrolling is jerky and uncoordinated, it’s painful and insanely distracting.

Remember 60hz CRTs? That was unbearable for me.
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