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You're right, absolutely nothing of note happened in the middle east 2001-2020 /s
TIL Middle east is part of the Western world
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Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you really believe that that minor error on my behalf is enough to dismiss the mountains of evidence? - Trump calls Putin "savvy" https://youtu.be/UsTH-WqbEu8?t=80 - Trump defends praising Putin https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/26/politics/trump-cpac-putin... > The problem is not that Putin is smart, which, of course, he's smart And sorry, it wasn't a genius, it was a stupid flop filled with greed and hubris. Jesus…
I really can’t disagree with this: > "The problem is not that Putin is smart, which, of course, he's smart," Trump said. "The problem is that our leaders are dumb... and so far, allowed him to get away with this travesty and assault on humanity." Trump is smart, which is why he recommended Europe arms itself and reduces dependence on Russian gas during his term. Other Western leaders are dumb, because they didn’t lis…
If Russia actually took Trump seriously as a smart adversary who could threaten their power they wouldn't have tried to put get him elected and tried again to keep him in power [0,1]. I don't believe Trump was a Russian agent per se, although it is odd how Trump's connections with Russian business (and potential to be compromised) didn't raise any eyebrows among the set still screaming about Hunter Biden. It's obvious Russia supported Trump for the same reason many Americans did - as a "bull in the china shop of the establishment."
Russia probably wouldn't have succeeded in sabotaging American politics or sewing so much discord via Trump just being himself if half the country didn't happen to also want to see the system burn, albeit to a different end (an alt-right, anti progressive populist revolution.)
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...
[1]https://www.npr.org/2021/03/16/977958302/intelligence-report...
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trump was not impeached, the vote for it failed.
> Trump was not impeached, the vote for it failed. Trump was impeached twice , the vote exceeding the required majority of the House of Representatives in each case. Impeachment is similar to indictment in the normal criminal process: a formal laying of charges. Trump was not convicted in the trial resulting from either impeachment by the required 2/3 of the Senate, however.
Thanks for clarifying
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
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That's a general accusation, but what exactly are you referring to? Can you provide examples? > blatant Russian propaganda Propaganda isn't so blatent; it's used because it works.
Just take a look at Reddit since the last two weeks: https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/t35933/captain_ukrain... https://old.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/t1j650/these_are_my_u... https://old.reddit.com/r/meirl/comments/t3oykr/meirl https://old.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/t31tek/ukraini... https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/t2fb00/ze... https://old.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/t22d53/…
> How does all this seem sane and not blatant or disturbing at all?
I'm not sure what you mean by "sane" - are you referring to something in this conversation? How is sanity implicated? Also, did someone say it's not disturbing?
It may seem blatent, but: 1) That's the propaganda you recognize; the problem is the propaganda you don't detect. And 2) while the content might be obvious, the intent might not be. For example, you could see Trump using blatent lies, but the intent was (IMHO) to confuse and divert enemies by putting them on the defensive, and to sow chaos by creating a sense of fear and alarm - to make you feel that things are insane and disturbed.
FWIW, you can't try to divine the motives of propagandists in that way. All you can look at is to say, what are the effects and who benefits? There is some truth, as the propagadists are acting in their own interests (when they are successful).
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Like spreading a meme about a fighter ace that never existed? I’ve seen a lot of that, it’s wild to see misinformation spread like wildfire.
Pardon me, but how exactly is spreading an image of a war time hero - that frankly if real or not is needed - the same as spreading the notion that the west needs to be unraveled, the american capitalism destroyed (sure it needs improvement, but total obliteration?), countries erased, and that entire ethnicities shouldn't exist?
“that frankly if real or not is needed”
You may be cool with people lying to your face because they think you need it.
I expect more from a democratic government
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
which was response to Germany banning RT first
that's not true - and RT is state sponsored, DW isn't
ROFL
Literally first sentence:
"Deutsche Welle or DW is a German public, state-owned[1] international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget.[3]
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#227So china banning western media is not censorship and if Russia bans all western media it's not censorship too.
Or does it work only one way?
Not really surprised by the double standard but it's pretty obvious this time.
If it's western it's "news" and if it's non western it's "propaganda". This is the modern equivalent of Stalin's iron curtain
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the stories they tell line up (generally) with non-government controlled news media.
Source?
https://adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart look into their methodology.
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is rather like blaming the host for the spread of a virus.
why is the host not wearing a mask?
Because wearing a mask (banning broadcasting of RT is invasive and against liberal values) was unfashionable and people still complain and call it totalitarian. Now Europe is wearing a mask.
Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?
#230Nah. But in all seriousness, this is totalitarian ruling. Wtf eu? RT might be a trash fire propaganda news but the EU ain’t at war with Russia. If the people want to listen to the propaganda, and I’m sure there were listener equivalents in neutral places either via SW or MW broadcast in ww2. Making it illegal to route packets to them and to circumvent the block? Garbage tier laws.
It is made illegal precisely because it is not trash fire propaganda. Read some coverage of this crisis on there and judge for yourself.
Russia today does some good reporting which is what makes it dangerous because false information or misleading reporting is mixed in on purpose under control of political russia.