Telegram now censoring channels in Germany for “violating local laws”

Sure thing, thats what I've heard from right or left winged "anarchists" and other self declared woke or enlightened people countless times.

" I used to trust the news, media and government as well"

Reality is, I stopped doing this long ago, when I was 15 or something.

So I think I now can evaluate quite neutral, the validity of nazi sources, government sources, anti vaxx sources, chemtrail etc. and I do not have to bend reality around my ideology. I can take a truth, no matter where it comes from. But there is not much truth coming from the nazis for example. Truth was never a concern for them. Power is. (I read Mein Kampf, too). And lies feed their twisted power. From the beginning - they even made a propaganda ministery.

In either case, my personal observation, from many direct encounters with them, is:

There are still lots of nazis around today. Only the very simple ones do not hide themself. Most of them wear suits today.

But no, they are not strong enough, to take power. If they could, they would. They do it everywhere local they can. Terrorizing anyone not white.

But I never said, I support special government restrictions to those poor oppressed racial freedom fighter. (normal criminal code is sufficient). The fact that you assume I do, because I explained why those special restrictions have popular support, shows how much you think in fixed patterns.

No, analogies are fine. Relativising the holocaust or denying it is not.

rnd[0] did a good report on this. The people who started the yellow-star-antivax trend are known and public holocaust deniers and nazis. Prominent figures here are also putting on the holocaust and the relocation of sudetendeutschen on the same level of evil.

>The Nazis were horrific partly because they did forced medical experiments on people.

Yes

>Regardless of what our ruling classes try to claim, the mRNA vaccines are in fact experimental and people are being forced to take them. That is a policy straight out of Hitler's playbook.

No. Source: All of medical literature for mRNA. If you're not willing to look for it, most medical scientists agree that mRNA, to all our knowledge, is harmless. It won't stay in your body more than a week anyways before it decays.

>Making that comparison is not trivializing what he did, let alone "denying the Holocaust" - which is a complete non-sequitur. They're doing the opposite of denying the Nazi's actions, they're directly calling attention to them.

They're not. They're saying that getting poked by a needle is as bad as being starved to death before being squished into a small chamber and brutally choked to death by gas. It's not funny. (edit: And if you don't trust mRNA, there is dead/alive vaccines available too)

>I think you should just face the music here: you don't like the yellow stars because they're a direct assertion that a policy you support is evil of the type seen in the past, and that therefore, maybe you are evil. Man up and argue why it's not marching in the same direction despite the overt similarities. Don't try and claim anyone pointing out those similarities are "denying the Holocaust" because that's quite evidently not true.

The truth is that the holocaust-deniers under the anti-vaxxers are already a minority, they're theories are absolute quack and at best they're not contributing to society, at worst they're destroying it. And yes, some of them are denying the holocaust. Others are relativizing it. Both of those things are bad, don't try to strawman my argument that I'm saying otherwise.

0: https://www.rnd.de/politik/judensterne-auf-querdenker-demos-...

"No. Source: All of medical literature for mRNA"

So if the scientists doing the experiments claim their experiments are A-OK, people being forced into them is OK? Really? That's the distinction you feel makes it not the same as what the Nazis were doing? If the Nazi doctors had said "we think our medical work is actually beneficial" you'd have said, oh OK then. Not a crime.

"They're saying that getting poked by a needle is as bad as being starved to death before being squished into a small chamber and brutally choked to death by gas."

They are NOT saying that and the fact you keep making this nonsensical claim is - again - proving my point to any bystanders who are watching. If you're representative of the average German then the Allies failed because you aren't drawing generalizable lessons from the past. The anti-mandate campaigners are drawing analogies with the Nazi practice of forced medical experimentation on people which you have already agreed was horrific. And that is worth comparing to the Nazis because history teaches us that people willing to take that step may well be willing to take others, which is exactly how we end up with pictures like these:

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https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_p...

Do you see the danger now? The guy with the swastika symbol in the first photo has a sign saying "gas the unvaccinated". It should not be a shock that the actual neo-Nazis here aren't the people saying "leave us alone" but rather the ones saying "let's force people to take brand new drugs against their will". The latter was something the Nazis actually did. Making vaccines a matter of free choice wasn't.

> The latter was something the Nazis actually did. Making vaccines a matter of free choice wasn't.

This overstates the situation. The Americans also required smallpox vaccine for the continental army, and the US currently requires MMR vaccine for participation in public school.

Requiring vaccination (of everyone, another key difference between the pandemic and the Nazi analogy, as the Nazis weren't conducting medical experiments on those they considered "master race") to participate in some aspects of modern society is part of modern society. Comparing it to the Holocaust trivializes the Holocaust.