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Post by skort »

throwAway97557 wrote: post #100
yla92 wrote: post #81

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This is how I see it. It could also be more towards "financial freedom" instead of "early retirement". Financial freedom in a sense that you don't have to work for money anymore and can live on your investment/saving with some fix withdrawal every year. That also means that you can choose to work at the places of your interest but don't pay much and you will still be okay!

I left FB a handful of years ago and the RSUs left me in this position (low 7-figs in investments/savings). I still work full time, but I only work on things I care about, which mostly involves non-profits and social work. I like getting a paycheck and knowing that I'm still growing my nest egg, but I care very little about getting promotions and raises since they're a borderline rounding error compared to what I've…

I'm looking to do something similar, leave behind the high stress and find something more meaningful to work on that covers the bills while my nest egg matures. I admittedly have not looked into what's next as much as I should have, but do you have any tips on how to make such a transition?

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Post by zionic »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #208
zionic wrote: post #161

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Not going to dox myself. > I haven't worked at FAANG I doubt that. > but I most definitely would not want to work for a company like yours. You do you. But I make sure we pay way above average, I want the best people and the best people don’t work for Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Google.

Where do you think the best people work, and how did you come to that conclusion?

Lots of places. See, the best people have a lot of options. That’s implicit.

Given the diversity of rewarding roles available to them, the best people aren’t pressured to accept morally compromising positions.

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Post by yongjik »

zionic wrote: post #116
tmule wrote: post #42

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Make sure you’re not violating your company’s guidelines. If I were at a company and I knew of signals based on subjective morality being used for filtering, I’d summarily fire the offending employee.

I’ve written all of my companies guidelines. I explicitly codify that the hiring of former surveillance capitalism mercenaries is a fireable offense. “But the equity was great” is not an excuse.

Clicked "favorite", because I have a feeling that a year later I'll be like "Dammit, what was that comment that made me think 'Now this is peak HN cringe'? Can't find it again..."

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Post by refurb »

zionic wrote: post #140
iamstupidsimple wrote: post #39

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Unpopular opinion: Facebook is widely disliked by the loudest voices in the room (for good reason), but the vast majority of people still just treat it like a fancy forum. It's not going to stain your CV. Plus, Facebook-the-app is far more disliked than Meta-the-company especially now that's a formal distinction. I imagine it's still relatively cool to work on Instagram, for example.

> It's not going to stain your CV. Not with that attitude. I refuse to hire anyone with FAANG on their resume and you can all do it too. Most of you on here are all woo woo Linux this and FSF that, but you won’t put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hire you if you work for these assholes, and I’d love for more of you to join me. To the rest of you: Sure, take that $300k total comp bro. Good luck working outsid…

Ok, so one employer won’t hire me. I’ll just have to go with one of the other tens of thousands.

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Post by sofixa »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #147
mercutio2 wrote: post #34

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Well of course we won’t say that to your face! But it’s certainly a factor when I’m reviewing resumes.

Taking you at your word that you do this, I'm very glad I don't work with you. I would never want to associate with the kind of person who holds the employees responsible for the decisions of management, and then punishes them for wanting to leave that same management. Seems pretty biblical, in the original sin sense. The whole "won't say it to your face" is the absolute cherry on top. If you don't talk about it, how…

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Post by Shikadi »

zionic wrote: post #109
code_biologist wrote: post #40

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I'll match your anecdote with mine. I'm an engineering leader at a small company that has worked at FAANG. I have personal mixed feelings about working at FB, but it's a very strong positive signal about someone's engineering ability (and comp expectations lol). Send any good coders you toss out because they worked at FB my way!!

I’ll match your anecdote with mine. I’ve been everything from CTO to lead engineer. I’ve made sure we always pay well above average for every role because I’d rather have one exceptional engineer than 10 regular ones. FAANG on your resume is an instant disqualification.

If you're going to judge people for working at faang, you better never shop at Walmart or Amazon, never buy any foreign electronics because they're made with child labor, work for a non profit that doesn't shovel money away from those who produce it into the hands of shareholders that control the public policy allowing for atrocities like DuPont, never buy anything with Teflon in it, take the bus instead of owning a car, and boycotting cable and internet companies. We're all in the same exploitative evil system, get off your high horse and stop judging people for being employed. The workers aren't the evil, it's the people who call the shots and make the investments. If Jeff Bezos wants to go to space, he's going to space whether you help or not, so might as well take what you can get.

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Post by vanusa »

neilv wrote: post #184
dannyw wrote: post #85

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At some point in your career, you have the ability to simply reject leetcode-like tests. Just politely decline.

Is this the point in your career when you have so much money that you don't actually need a job?

More like you gradually come to a realization that your time in this world is extremely, extremely precious.

And that you just don't particularly see a need to cater to other people's made up (and sometimes downright farcical) rituals to such an excessive degree.

No matter how much money they may dangle in front of you.

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Post by zionic »

civilized wrote: post #189
zionic wrote: post #161

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Not going to dox myself. > I haven't worked at FAANG I doubt that. > but I most definitely would not want to work for a company like yours. You do you. But I make sure we pay way above average, I want the best people and the best people don’t work for Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Google.

So how do you hire the best people? Seems like most employers focus on name-brand resumes and leetcode. I've never met anyone who does an actual substantial interview.

I’m not perfect. I like to hire people slowly, and meet them in person where I can.

But I’ve definitely made mistakes, and so far every hire I’ve honestly regretted worked for a megacorp prior to me hiring them.

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Post by tofurocks »

voakbasda wrote: post #95
elb0w wrote: post #79

It always blows my mind how most interview in our field. When I first started in tech I was afraid to talk about not knowing leetcode to my peers. 15 years in and I now can confidently say I’ve yet to meet someone who thinks these are a valid metric. Why do we make this the gate keeper to our industry when we know (except for the very specific roles) we will rarely need leet code type problems. When we do we just goo…

Somebody here on HN recently shared the notion that leetcode tests are a legal way to discriminate by age or lifestyle, as older and well-rounded developers do not have the time or inclination to grind on such things.

I don't understand what you mean here - would a company not want a well rounded developer ?

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Post by Salgat »

ensan wrote: post #129
throwaway3137 wrote: post #23

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(throwaway account for the obvious reason) I've been at Meta for 3+ years. I'm also interviewing. I have somewhere between 4 and 8 offers right now (not a humblebrag, just the facts). Not a single interviewer (from junior engineers to directors and VPs of engineering) asked me anything remotely like "Why are you still at an awful company like Facebook?" The plural of anecdote is not "fact", but that's my experience:…

“somewhere between 4 and 8 offers right now” How can the number of offers be indeterminate?

He's waiting on responses or is entering the final rounds for some of these companies.
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