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I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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I wanted to love VR. I dreamed of having a headset when I was younger and kickedstarted the oculus rift. I imagined a million worlds that would be within virtual reach. It would be the coolest! VR has been nothing but a complete disappointment to me. Motion Sickness, headaches, sweaty headsets and detachment. Never played a VR game that wasn’t better without it, somewhat like 3D movies. I have my doubts this will eve…

I’m sorry. I have very high VR tolerance and I experience no sickness at all even in the most intense games and VR has been an almost magical experience over the last few years so I’m sorry you’re not able to get that same enjoyment.

Calling it a fad though seems incorrect. We’ve already passed the point of Quest 2 headsets being in over 10million homes and that’s up from 5 million a few months earlier. At this rate it’s following the same trajectory as consoles and because of the headsets general availability a whole generation of kids are getting a Quest 2 instead of an Xbox or pS5.

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People don't seem to understand that VR was always an element of dystopian fiction. It's one of the things we do when we are confined to Earth. The others are gambling (with apes?), drugs, mindless hedonism (there's an app for that), following cults and crazy ideologies (Qanon? flat Earth?), pointless political intrigue, and war both physical and cultural. There will be a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Sta…

We must have very different thoughts about the timescale on which settlement of other planets is likely to happen. To have a complete civilization that is not dependent on earth, means many tens of millions of people living elsewhere - you just can't have a self-sustaining space-faring civilization without a base that large. I'd guess this is at least several thousands of years out, and thus nearly completely irrelevant because our civilization won't last that long on its present course; we really have to solve the energy and carbon crisis because we can't run from it.

VR may actually be part of that solution, though in a very dystopic fashion - reducing energy consumption of individuals could maybe be more tolerable if everyone is jacked in.

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Yes, I worked with a Quest 2 and Virtual Desktop for 1 month while my monitor was being repaired. I personally had no issue with the resolution. 1080p looks good to me and I worked with that or worse for 35 years anyway. The major issue was not being able to see the keyboard. I can touch type the alphabet only. Vague feelings of discomfort arose after a few hours. All in all it was effective but I was very happy to h…

>The major issue was not being able to see the keyboard. I came to the conclusion that this was THE issue holding VR productivity (and gaming) back, after a few weeks of using the Quest 2. The passthrough feature they have is like a v0.1 of what's that's really needed for this tech to excel. Haptic gloves look like they might nudge things along a little bit more, but ultimately being able to see your actual keyboard…

This is already possible with the Logitec K830 and the Apple Magic Keyboard

https://uploadvr.com/best-wireless-bluetooth-keyboards-for-m...

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People don't seem to understand that VR was always an element of dystopian fiction. It's one of the things we do when we are confined to Earth. The others are gambling (with apes?), drugs, mindless hedonism (there's an app for that), following cults and crazy ideologies (Qanon? flat Earth?), pointless political intrigue, and war both physical and cultural. There will be a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. Sta…

There is also the frontier of transmigration to the digital realm which opens up whole new possibilities for mankind, especially immortality.

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How is the experience with porn and VR Headset. From the past track record porn decides the direction of every new technology.

It's an interesting experience. Sometimes it's amazing. Videos usually include different angles, so you might feel like changing your body's position (though not necessary). It's very different than watching porn on a monitor -- the performers can be 'in your face' (very close) which may be unpleasant to some people. It's certainly something worth trying with at least a couple of videos (some videos are 3rd person view which is nice). Pro-tip, consider VR porn with mind-altering substances (e.g. weed, MDMA, LSD, mushrooms).

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Forget VR. Even without VR 3d games gives me motion sickness. I wanted to play the much praised "The Witness" games by Jonathan Blow. Too sad i could not because of motion sickness. Has any one found a solution that worked to get rid of motion sickness?.

This might depend on personal physiology - some people seem to have less of a negative effect.

One thing to try is the game "I Expect You to Die"

If I remember right, it was designed by people who focused explicitly on making a VR a pleasant experience. It's a game where you sit down (to match your character's position: sitting) and the camera never moves (the prime cause of motion sickness for many people). I loved the game and it was a great experience.

https://iexpectyoutodie.schellgames.com/

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I wanted to love VR. I dreamed of having a headset when I was younger and kickedstarted the oculus rift. I imagined a million worlds that would be within virtual reach. It would be the coolest! VR has been nothing but a complete disappointment to me. Motion Sickness, headaches, sweaty headsets and detachment. Never played a VR game that wasn’t better without it, somewhat like 3D movies. I have my doubts this will eve…

One of my biggest hobbies is sim racing, and I can tell you that putting on the VR headset is akin to putting on a helmet and setting off on the track. The sweatiness and discomfort is nothing more than a real driver would experience, and turning a wheel feels real without hand tracking. What you're experiencing with disorientation does tend to go away for most people if they're careful about it. And for me, I litera…

> that putting on the VR headset is akin to putting on a helmet and setting off on the track.

It depends on what your brain is used to. If you've never felt the acceleration, you don't know what you're missing. But I've done a lot of skiing in my life, and my brain will not accept VR skiing as the real thing. I feel queasy and have to stop.

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This is such a strange article. It doesn't present anything or explain how a VR workstation can actually work. Has anyone actually worked this way? I spent about an hour with a Vive headset and it was the most obnoxious experience I ever had. The lack of feedback, the requirements of a large room free of obstacle, the awful screen door effect, the poor precision from the dual wands. Overall, I was exhausted after jus…

>that still doesn't solve efficient input The phone was an input downgrade from keyboard+mouse and VR as an even more severe downgrade. Anyone talking about VR, especially in the context of work, without mentioning the glaring lack of input bandwidth is engaging in marketing.

Which is why the Quest 2 and Horizons Workrooms can track supported keyboards[0] and the next gen headsets will have full color passthrough. These problems are being recognized and solved as we speak.

[0] https://support.oculus.com/articles/horizon/getting-started-...

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I wanted to love VR. I dreamed of having a headset when I was younger and kickedstarted the oculus rift. I imagined a million worlds that would be within virtual reach. It would be the coolest! VR has been nothing but a complete disappointment to me. Motion Sickness, headaches, sweaty headsets and detachment. Never played a VR game that wasn’t better without it, somewhat like 3D movies. I have my doubts this will eve…

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Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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I wanted to love VR. I dreamed of having a headset when I was younger and kickedstarted the oculus rift. I imagined a million worlds that would be within virtual reach. It would be the coolest! VR has been nothing but a complete disappointment to me. Motion Sickness, headaches, sweaty headsets and detachment. Never played a VR game that wasn’t better without it, somewhat like 3D movies. I have my doubts this will eve…

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