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Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Post by mavhc » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 11:31 AM UTC

iso1210 wrote: post #72

thinkingemote wrote: post #65

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originally from the Sunday Times, pasted here because paywall https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/s54g7c/boris_jo... The other changes are: •Announce a No 10 workplace “booze ban” in an effort to end the drinking culture in “Club Downing Street”. •Freeze the BBC licence fee for two years to help the cost of living. •Hand to the military control of the battle to stop illegal immigrants in the Channel. •Unveil…

> •Freeze the BBC licence fee for two years to help the cost of living. Hilarious. Even a 10% License Fee increase would cost about £8 per adult per year Meanwhile the tax rise they're implementing next month will cost an average £300 per adult per year, and increase costs on employers by the same amount.

Old people, who pay less tax usually, also watch a lot of TV, and vote in their droves for Conservatives

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Post by mavhc » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 11:35 AM UTC

tannhaeuser wrote: post #144

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Their coverage is well within the range of opinion of every political party except far-right AfD. As such, it represents >90% of the voters in last year‘s election. They are not neutral when it comes to values such as democracy itself, and expecting them to be is silly.

> They are not neutral when it comes to values such as democracy itself, and expecting them to be is silly. That's exactly the kind of Skinner box reflex conditioned by public news I was talking about. You know, there are good reasons to defend a civil society threatened by lockdowns, unconstitutional curfews, contact bans, and restricting freedom of assembly. And to criticize our government's over-reaching, yet inef…

There's probably some kind of largest pandemic in 100 years thing going on, tends to cause people to not want to die

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Post by onphonenow » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 11:38 PM UTC

glomph wrote: post #206

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What I don't get is why the conservatives were so draconian over covid. Your partner is dying, you can't see them. Folks couldn't walk around outside. Some guy driving to walk around outside was like national news. I mean, if you go to this extreme, and then are throwing parties. (Rules for thee, not for me) it would make me furious as well. Let me go sit on the beach with sunshine and fresh air instead of having to…

>What I don't get is why the conservatives were so draconian over covid. Because hundreds of people were dying every day? Because that would have been worse without widespread restrictions?

But you can't have it both ways. If you do lockdown etc, you can't then throw parties.

In the US some right wing folks didn't do the full lockdowns. My point was if they are "caught" out at the beach, regardless of if it is bad health policy, folks won't be as mad.

What makes folks mad is the lockdown, then the party, the beach, the fancy dinner. So yeah, Boris is going to be hurting from this, because its infuriating.

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Post by youngtaff » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 8:18 AM UTC

mkdirp wrote: post #177

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When papers like the Sun and Mail are the most popular in the UK I think it's hard to agree that Britain overall is left leaning As for the BBC it's firmly establishment leaning rather than left leaning in my view, and they also carry a lot of the blame for promoting Farage's poltics e.g. more appearances on question time than anyone else

> As for the BBC it's firmly establishment leaning rather than left leaning in my view, and they also carry a lot of the blame for promoting Farage's poltics e.g. more appearances on question time than anyone else As much as I hate everything that is Farage & co, I think that is rather a symptom of the BBC being less biased than other outlets. If you want to claim to be unbiased, you have to give both sides of any ar…

Find me another politician who's appeared one Question Time over 34 times in such a short space of time…

Re: BBC licence fee to be abolished in 2027 and funding frozen

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Post by youngtaff » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 9:53 AM UTC

iso1210 wrote: post #159

youngtaff wrote: post #142

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When papers like the Sun and Mail are the most popular in the UK I think it's hard to agree that Britain overall is left leaning As for the BBC it's firmly establishment leaning rather than left leaning in my view, and they also carry a lot of the blame for promoting Farage's poltics e.g. more appearances on question time than anyone else

> When papers like the Sun and Mail are the most popular in the UK I think it's hard to agree that Britain overall is left leaning "Left leaning" is of course relative. Some claim that Tony Blair is right wing, and Corbyn is the "middle ground". If you claim that then sure Britian is overall right-of-corbyn. But if you take the standard "Lab/Lib/SNP/Green" is left leaning, and "Tory/UKIP/BNP" is right leaning, then a…

Farage was a stockbroker, his dad was a stockbroker… he went to private school, he was a member of the Conservative party and a politician for decades

Yes, he might not be old money but he's as establishment as they come - look at his clothes he even wears the uniform of the establishment

One of his greatest tricks is that we was able to convince so many people that he was a normal person just like them