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Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by Cixelyn »

wnkrshm wrote: post #138
liuru wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) It was mostly manual, though AIs were useful in certain filtering tasks. 2) Depends on the quality you are seeking. If you only want one run of a similar, off-the-shelf model, around the 1000s is enough. But at the number of iterations you have to run to build your own and improve results, you probably need about 100k. To tackle this problem, we built our own supercomputer off of parts we bought off of ebay, thoug…

Very curious about the computer, what are the internals?

Will probably blog probably in a week or two.

But the tldr; is a lot of scavenged EPYCs and nvidia GPUs all in a large sound-proof rack.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by Cixelyn »

echelon wrote: post #59

This is mind-blowingly good. You keep pushing the state of the art further to the point of broad applicability. It won't be long until everyone can be an artist without putting in the ten thousand hours of drudgery of training their muscles, hand-eye coordination, structure of shape and perspective, etc. I can't wait! Do you have a team page? How many of you are there? Do you work with gwern and nearcyan? Are you goi…

No team page yet! Friends with near, but haven't had a chance to meet gwern yet (maybe one day??)

Arrowmancer is really our first attempt at scaling it up; hoping to do even cooler generative AI-related in that production.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by unobatbayar »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #137
Bombthecat wrote: post #65

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The more interesting question: What about the sources for the AI to train? How are those artists paid? Do we need to pay them? Or if it used by an AI as train data, we just say: Its like a human learning?

A human artist can purchase material or access freely available material, look at it, learn from it and then draw his own. An AI could do the same.

Exactly, human artists browse through vast number of resources, then call it "inspiration".

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by numpad0 »

nautilius wrote: post #213
numpad0 wrote: post #201

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Japanese just naturally look underage to western eyes. Opposite is also true btw. I think I’ve seen some women mention having to wear “Chinese eyed Pocahontas” makeup to be treated as a human in Western countries or else everyone looks away. “500yo loli girl” argument might be pure BS but there is no way that age guesstimation on anime girls by someone who aren’t super familiar with local culture works either. I mean…

I am sure all of this is true, but it's not the discussion in this thread. Instead, the first post (now flagged) initiated the discussion about pedophiles (so there's really no room for any interpretation about how old someone looks ) and Ygg essentially argues that that's just a question of point of view. I fundamentally disagree with that.

I think he failed to clarify what would pivot depending on a point of view. I've seen enough examples of Japanese individuals past age of consent, even close to end of fertility or past it, yet assumed underaged, so the premise of "pedophile culture" seem to be based on inaccurate understanding to me.

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by KronisLV »

LoveMortuus wrote: post #156
Gigachad wrote: post #130

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Probably for it to work you would have to limit them and have a set of hand selected images. Seemingly people will buy anything if you can hype it enough.

I guess you could limit it with a colour palette and that way give yourself an option to bring special colour palette images in the future, for special events or occasions.

This sounds a lot like what games like Counter Strike: Global Offensive do with their cosmetic item skins, where they have rarity for each and also specific packages with themes and whatnot.

Now that's a fun business idea (ethically questionable gambling related aspects aside, guess it's about how one markets that and how honest they are).

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by hansel_der »

wodenokoto wrote: post #215
hansel_der wrote: post #210

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> Naïvely I thought Waifu generator was just “some guy having a laugh” same here. what's naive about it? not to badmouth the undertaking, but wtf is this doing on HN?

Apparently it takes 6 people making a business to run a waifu generator. That pretty far from one person doing it as a joke.

well, apparently...

i sincerely applaud the creativity of establishing such a business

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by echelon »

Cixelyn wrote: post #222
echelon wrote: post #59

This is mind-blowingly good. You keep pushing the state of the art further to the point of broad applicability. It won't be long until everyone can be an artist without putting in the ten thousand hours of drudgery of training their muscles, hand-eye coordination, structure of shape and perspective, etc. I can't wait! Do you have a team page? How many of you are there? Do you work with gwern and nearcyan? Are you goi…

No team page yet! Friends with near, but haven't had a chance to meet gwern yet (maybe one day??) Arrowmancer is really our first attempt at scaling it up; hoping to do even cooler generative AI-related in that production.

All the best! Super excited!

Re: Welcome to Waifu Labs v2: How Do AIs Create?

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Post by nautilius »

numpad0 wrote: post #226
nautilius wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure all of this is true, but it's not the discussion in this thread. Instead, the first post (now flagged) initiated the discussion about pedophiles (so there's really no room for any interpretation about how old someone looks ) and Ygg essentially argues that that's just a question of point of view. I fundamentally disagree with that.

I think he failed to clarify what would pivot depending on a point of view. I've seen enough examples of Japanese individuals past age of consent, even close to end of fertility or past it, yet assumed underaged, so the premise of "pedophile culture" seem to be based on inaccurate understanding to me.

No one has brought up a 'pedophile culture' in this discussion up to now, so there is no inaccurate understanding as this premise does not exist in this discussion.

Instead, the discussion was about how (i) there being demand fully justifies delivering whatever pedophile customers desire, with Ygg arguing that (ii) child rape being bad is just an arbitrary societal convention.

Again, I fundamentally and vehemently disagree with both of these premises.

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