School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

Post by iLoveOncall » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 8:33 PM UTC

hirako2000 wrote: post #210

iLoveOncall wrote: post #191

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> before the industrial revolution, most people were farmers. Kids were out playing, stayed home safe or participated to gardening activities. Ah yes, the good old times where nobody could read or write and your only perspective in life was to be a farmer like your father and his father before him!

I've cared sharing your comment with two farmers, they appear to be able to read so their response may not be representative of the audience you had in mind: Be a farmer just one day and you will change your mind. I think it's wise advice as it wouldn't take long rethoric for some truth to reveal itself, and surely would be a valuable experience.

I don't understand where you see any correlation between the two in my comment.

Post by wobblybubble » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 4:48 PM UTC

another_story wrote: post #216

wobblybubble wrote: post #122

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A lot of what teachers do is exactly just that—basically talking at the pupils, as if they were vessels who are supposed to have their heads filled up with knowledge. Proper learning is supposed to be more active and pupil-directed. Look at the Deweyite schools in America. If you find that to be a belittling description then I’m sorry, but that’s largely what teachers do . And it’s been critiqued for a long time by t…

“Proper education” is student, culture and even teacher dependent. There is no singular best practice. So many of the sit down, shut up models of education in other countries produce students which routinely trounce US students in math and science. At the same time, so does Finland. My point above is that the belittling is a major part of the problem. You want to denigrate an entire profession, sure, but it has conse…

> “Proper education” is student, culture and even teacher dependent. There is no singular best practice.

In my experience it is not productive to have this kind of conversation with teachers since they will go back and forth between (1) general, vague praise for mass education, and then (2) vacuous, relativistic statements that says nothing about education other than “it’s relative” once they are confronted with concrete problems.

They seem to identify too strongly with their teacher identity to be up for that discussion.

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