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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by EA »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #185
causality0 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Covid has a death rate hundreds of times higher than a cold. Colds don't make healthy women in their twenties stay up all night coughing so hard their oxygen dips into the 80s. Colds don't cause lung, heart, and cognitive damage that is potentially cumulative. If covid brain fog compounds over time there will be some serious damn consequences.

Is there even a single confirmed death from Omicron yet? I've heard of a couple but they turned out to be fake. This is a highly dynamic situation. Omicron is not alpha or even delta.

An unvaccinated man with underlying health conditions died in Texas mid December after testing positive for the COVID-19 omicron variant, officials in Houston said, marking what is believed to be the first death linked to the strain in the U.S.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/2021122...

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Post by swader999 »

stefan_ wrote: post #156
hitpointdrew wrote: post #142

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>Surely this is the end of the pandemic? Yes, welcome to the endemic. Covid is here to stay, it doesn't matter if 100% of the world were vaccinated tommrow, covid would not go away. It doesn't matter if you get the vaccination or not, in your life time you WILL get covid (just like the flu, no one escapes it, you typically get the flu about every decade or so regardless of shots). We need to just accept this and move…

You have a rather crucial misunderstanding. There are lots of endemic viruses; that is part of why we vaccinate new humans against so many of them.

Not ones that mutate this efficiently. Flu is the only example and we typically only manage to get high percentages of the vulnerable with it. This is what we want with these types of virus otherwise you risk Mariks scenario. (See the poultry industry issues)

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Post by gromitss »

spurgu wrote: post #182
rixrax wrote: post #120

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I guess it depends on a few things: - how long the immunity gained from having recovered from Omicron lasts - how well that immunity protects against other current (and future) variants of covid - what kind of new strains of covid appears in next several months / years that may replace Omicron - how many people we are able to get vaccinated globally - advances in new and better vaccines becoming available (complete w…

Also: - how much/long the media keeps the fear drum pounding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5E8z89c9U

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by devin »

causality0 wrote: post #191
ricardobayes wrote: post #153

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I will say beforehand that I'm heavily pro-vaccination and reducing risks regarding covid. Do we know at this point what are the hospitalization rates of omicron compared to the flu? p.s. I hope your wife gets better soon.

Numbers are still changing but the current stat is one percent hospitalization rate for Omicron. This year's flu has a hospitalization rate almost twice as high as last year's, at 1.4 in 100,000 or 0.0014%.

And Delta was something like 6% IIRC?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by causality0 »

ricardobayes wrote: post #209
causality0 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Numbers are still changing but the current stat is one percent hospitalization rate for Omicron. This year's flu has a hospitalization rate almost twice as high as last year's, at 1.4 in 100,000 or 0.0014%.

Is that vaccinated in both cases or overall?

Overall for the infected regardless of vaccine status.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by rhino369 »

Marazan wrote: post #171

Omicron has probably saved Florida (andnother southern states) from a horrendous Delta winter wave.

I'm skeptical. The 2020 Winter wave started in October. But cases were decreasing of flat Oct. and Nov. with barely any mitigations in place. There was some sign of an increase in very late nov. and early december. Whether that is an early sign of a wave, a thanksgiving bump, or signs of Omicron spreading, it's hard to tell.

But it Florida and the South had a high degree of immunity to delta even pre omicron.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by rblatz »

swader999 wrote: post #202
brutal_chaos_ wrote: post #190

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Granted this still needs peer review...but you may want to look into this: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1139035/v1 I hope your recovery goes well and you truly have zero issues.

That's pretty terrifying.

Eventually it’s going to do what all other viruses have done. Mutate into another flu or common cold. We already have l seasonal coronavirus outbreaks. We call it cold and flu season; except it’s numerous coronaviruses and influenza viruses and one or two “win” that year.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by jakear »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #103

Surely this is the end of the pandemic? With an estimated 300k+ cases per day here in the UK, that is 10 million this month on top of everyone who has already had it. It’s as though nobody is ready to acknowledge the elephant in the room that Covid is nearly finished. Or am I missing something?

Yes, COVID is finished in much the same way the Spanish flu is finished. Derivatives of it come up and smack us every winter but life goes on.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by swader999 »

nickysielicki wrote: post #134
benjaminwootton wrote: post #103

Surely this is the end of the pandemic? With an estimated 300k+ cases per day here in the UK, that is 10 million this month on top of everyone who has already had it. It’s as though nobody is ready to acknowledge the elephant in the room that Covid is nearly finished. Or am I missing something?

It’s just politicians trying to save face at this point. Trillions of dollars lost and total debasement of western currencies was all to arrive at the natural solution to a virus that was destined to become endemic from the very start: let it play out. Two administrations, one from both parties. Same fed chair. Same people at the CDC and WHO. It’s not partisan. It’s institutional failure.

More like corporate capture imo.

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Post by rhino369 »

rocqua wrote: post #13
akmarinov wrote: post #6

If it’s milder than Delta - then that’s good right? Or do the increased cases lead to more hospitalizations than Delta?

Scary thing is. Milder disease is a constant factor improvement in hospitalization. But faster spreading (higher R value) is an exponential worsening in hospitalization. It's probably better to have a 50% hospitalization rate and an R value of 0.8 than a 5% hospitalization rate and an R value of 2. After 3 'generations' of spreading the second situation already has more hospitalizations.

An R value of .8 would quickly go extinct.
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