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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

paganel wrote: post #171
matheusmoreira wrote: post #162

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Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. It's impossible. Imagine what it'd take for them to actually offer a service that can even begin to compare with what copyright infringement makes possible. They'd have to pool all their intellectual property into a single holding and offer access to all of it at once. Piracy offers us all the works of humanity, everything ever created. These copyright hold…

> in the correct order in their little streaming service user interfaces. And in the correct format [1]. Made me just want to pirate Seinfeld so that I could watch it under the proper conditions, but I'm too lazy for that as Netflix is just a few clicks away. [1] https://twitter.com/Thatoneguy64/status/1443961536079450117 ?

Every version of Mission Hill except the pirated one has the wrong goddamned music!

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Post by paulcole »

jancsika wrote: post #155
paulcole wrote: post #100

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I’ll admit I don’t understand how people can ethically pirate content. I dislike a lot of business models but I just don’t feel right calling them “silly” and looking for ways to take things I know I don’t have the right to take.

> I dislike a lot of business models but I just don’t feel right calling them “silly” and looking for ways to take things I know I don’t have the right to take. How do you know if you have a right to take them? If it's according to the law, then your ethical stance changes with the wind. E.g., you would believe you have a right to derive new music by taking a chord progression from your favorite song, but not by taki…

> How do you know if you have a right to take them?

If someone says “This is $5.” And if I don’t pay them $5, then I feel like I don’t have a right to it. If it takes paragraphs of text to explain why despite not paying them $5 I have a right to take it, then I feel like I don’t have a right to take it.

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Post by YPPH »

nebula8804 wrote: post #177
YPPH wrote: post #62

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As sidpatil says, that's a write-protect tab. If you bought blank VHS tapes and recorded something you could rip the tab off to stop you or someone else accidentally overwriting, say, your wedding video. Of course, all retail tapes were tab free. And you could simply use masking tape to bypass it, because it was only designed to stop unintentional overwriting, not intentional overwriting. I'm pretty sure as a kid I w…

>I'm pretty sure as a kid I wrote over a few (bad) retail VHS movies this way, tapes that served more value as blanks. Now that I think about it, I've never gotten a Blockbuster/Hollywood Video rental that was damaged in this manner. This method of property destruction never even crossed my mind. It seems so obvious given how easy it is to disable write protection. Was I just lucky or were people more considerate bac…

Just to clarify, I meant retail tapes I (read: my parents) owned. I never overwrote rented tapes.

I recall rental shops would have rewind machines, but I don't remember them ever checking the content of the tape.

Maybe people were just considerate. Maybe the threat of having a whopping fine when the the next unhappy renter returned and complained about the tape, causing the shop to check the rental history, dissuaded such behaviour.

Or, maybe people respected the institution. I used to really like video stores as they offered affordable access to entertainment and were just nice places to visit.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

ralferoo wrote: post #213
VRay wrote: post #193

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Man, I grew up lower/lower-middle class, about 30-40% of the median family income, and we had the $80/month cable package plus went to Blockbuster for 5+ rentals per week I don't think that was unusual, either.

If you're watching 5+ rental films per week, when do you have the time to watch anything on the cable package? Sounds like a ridiculous waste of money to me, but then I'm firmly at the other end of the spectrum. I finally cancelled my £30 a month TV package, I've not rented a film for over 10 years, and would buy blu-rays or DVDs only for things I thought I'd watch more than once, or where buying them was cheaper tha…

It's not particularly difficult to imagine a family situation where that would happen - although perhaps not nowadays when there is a much broader entertainment landscape:

1. traditional patriarchal setup, male parent works, mother at home, watches some cable during the day.

2. Kids come home from school / kindergarten at 4, watch some cable.

3. Eat dinner at 7, watch movie.

4. kids go to bed at 9, folks watch cable for couple hours.

5. Kids at age where they have their own tastes, 3 kids, buy 2 movies for adults 3 movies for kids or variations thereof.

I mean obviously the time to do this stuff is a waste of time, but often families waste the time because parents are burned out from various things and the easiest way to get through the time is to give everyone media to consume and forget about them.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

baybal2 wrote: post #212
luckylion wrote: post #176

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> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. Music has proven that idea wrong. I'm part of a few private music trackers that came after oink and what.cd. They're much smaller today than they used to. Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. They're maybe serving 200k people worldwide, if you include the language-specific ones from China, Korea etc. Spotify a…

> Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. Sitting in a cafe Abu Dhabi now, a shop on the opposite side of the street has "$10 for 1000 MP3 Hitz" I don't know who streams, when you can just download MP3s.

I do (Spotify). It's much, much more convenient, and quality is good enough.

Of course, I'm a bit concerned with the tracks "unavailable in my region" or "no longer available at all", but convenience trumps it.

As others have said, when I really like an album or something, I'll usually buy it, ideally lossless download, but a CD will do in a pinch.

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Post by luckylion »

baybal2 wrote: post #212
luckylion wrote: post #176

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> Copyright holders will never be able to compete with piracy. Music has proven that idea wrong. I'm part of a few private music trackers that came after oink and what.cd. They're much smaller today than they used to. Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. They're maybe serving 200k people worldwide, if you include the language-specific ones from China, Korea etc. Spotify a…

> Legal music streaming has made them all but obsolete for everyone but enthusiasts. Sitting in a cafe Abu Dhabi now, a shop on the opposite side of the street has "$10 for 1000 MP3 Hitz" I don't know who streams, when you can just download MP3s.

It's mostly three things according to my friends who use streaming services:

1) discovery: Spotify is great at giving you more of what you like, without you needing to manage your library

2) ease of access: No need to carry around a hard drive to have everything available

3) giant catalogue: to buy MP3s at that price and have a similar breadth and depth as Spotify (or rather: what you'd use of Spotify), you'd pay a lot more.

If you just want some tunes and are happy with what's very popular, you could also stream for free from Youtube.

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Post by danaris »

dave5104 wrote: post #107
chx wrote: post #91

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> the (legal) access I have to essentially any film or TV show I can imagine My imagination runs amok.. There is a Disney+ but https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Little_Dog_Lost is not on it. Nor is any other Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color or whatever name the anthology ran on television since 1954 but to me this is the only one that matters, what can I do, I love corgis :) The Mists Of Avalon mini series from 20…

About your Disney+ example, I do wonder why it seems that a lot of content like that isn't available on the platform. Are there streaming rights issues? Are they holding back content to drip feed content drops for as long as they can? Did they determine that some content isn't worth digging up the tapes and preparing for streaming?

Disney has always made a big deal out of the "Disney Vault"—back in the VHS days, they tried to replicate the scarcity of waiting until a movie was showing in a local theater by arbitrarily refusing to sell copies of some of their movies for years at a time. I believe they continued this practice with DVDs and Blu-Rays, though not nearly as widely.

This seems likely to be part of the same philosophy.

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Post by xenophonf »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #38
_august wrote: post #30

Why is it possible to pirate 4k content from these sites but not simply view 4k officially on my mac? (disney+ in particular)

Presumably the piracy apps tell those sites you're using something like Windows XP and need a certain version of the file.

You don't have to presume anything. The source code is right there.

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Post by boomboomsubban »

xenophonf wrote: post #228
boomboomsubban wrote: post #38

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Presumably the piracy apps tell those sites you're using something like Windows XP and need a certain version of the file.

You don't have to presume anything. The source code is right there.

I don't think which user agent they fake is particularly interesting, the point is they fake it.

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Post by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo »

paulcole wrote: post #143
YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #141

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try it. use their best practices and be amazed how much mental energy it saves.

I don’t find it takes much mental energy to pay for what I want to watch or just watch something else if I can’t pay for what I want to watch.

You are absolutely right it's the least draining part of the streaming experience. First you have to look if it's on a streaming service or where you can buy it in the quality you look for, is it like many sport events even available in my country, does the device or browser use the right drm or do I just get the 720p version, is it just the dub and not OV. Why are there no forced subtitles? What my Mac and Windows PCs can't play Blurays? What no Dolby passthrough? Your comment is just ignorant to the problem itself.
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