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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by vmception »

mintplant wrote: post #201
vmception wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they don’t, they manually merge code from upstream if they like it. Since Brave doesnt like it they wont merge it.

That's not actually true. Brave's system uses a Chromium commit hash as a base, then applies patches on top of that. They'll have to manually move the old API implementation into patches and continue to maintain it there. Source: I've collaborated with / worked on Brave in the past.

Sounds like they need a more comprehensive response with this move

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by detaro »

Dudemeister_ wrote: post #89
vmception wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they don’t, they manually merge code from upstream if they like it. Since Brave doesnt like it they wont merge it.

Won't this create a problem for them when it comes to the extension store since no new v2 extensions will be able to be deployed there even though other chromium based browsers support them?

Firefox will move to v3 while retaining the old webrequest APIs, so there will extensions around that would work.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by ak217 »

magicalhippo wrote: post #138
oauea wrote: post #120

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Do that twice, running two firefoxes using two profiles, then click a link in a third application. This tends to try to launch a third firefox process which hangs for a while then says "application already running". Okay, so you run one of them without no-remote. I had some issues with that, but it mostly works. Now how do you change the default profile? You completely stop firefox, update your shortcuts and finally,…

I agree this is a pain point when using multiple profiles, and something Firefox should improve. However it's not a huge issue. Mostly just copy-pasting links from mails etc instead of clicking, which gives the nice benefit of observing which site exactly you're about to visit.

Not being able to open links is pretty high on the list of huge issues for a browser.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by malshe »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #119
malshe wrote: post #113

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I want to and put my email address on the website twice since this was posted on HN a few weeks ago. I never received even a confirmation that I was added to the waitlist let alone the actual invite for beta. Also what’s with sending out invites every 3 weeks? Without knowing the point from which you count 3 weeks, it’s pretty much useless information.

The email with the download link says I can forward the invitation to anyone I think may be interested in Orion, so... Download: https://browser.kagi.com/downloads/Orion.dmg Report bugs: https://orionfeedback.org/ And I guess you can also give them your email if you want to feel better.

That's awesome. Thanks! They already have my email address.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by seanwilson »

Not saying this is good enough, but there's still 12 months before this needs to happen?

https://developer.chrome.com/blog/mv2-transition/

> As we look to the future by continuing to iterate on and improve upon Manifest V3 functionality, we also want to share details about the plan to phase out Manifest V2 extensions.

> There are two key dates for the phase-out:

> January 17, 2022: New Manifest V2 extensions will no longer be accepted by the Chrome Web Store. Developers may still push updates to existing Manifest V2 extensions, but no new Manifest V2 items may be submitted.

> January 2023: The Chrome browser will no longer run Manifest V2 extensions. Developers may no longer push updates to existing Manifest V2 extensions.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by [deleted] »

forty wrote: post #140
foepys wrote: post #100

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I have been using this workflow for years now. It separates literally everything: cookies, site settings, window size and position, configuration, add-on settings, etc. This way I can emulate a fresh profile, a restricted profile with tracking protection, and a completely locked down profile with more or less everything disabled. My private Firefox in completely unaffected by my development profiles and I can open mu…

How do you choose in which profile links from outside of the browser should open?

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by syshum »

Flankk wrote: post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

Ok, I will address what you have asked for.

Tracking based Ads generated by Google Ad-words and other networks should cease being viewed by content creators as the "primary source" of revenue, creators need to get creative and come up with better, most lasting revenue sources. Many already have, from direct memberships, merch, first party ads, but I am sure there are other more creative ways to make money

The lazy days of "just toss an adwords tracking cookie everywhere for the fast cash" is over, and I for one will celebrate the death of Ad words and all the other tracking ad networks

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by zwaps »

staticassertion wrote: post #211
ComodoHacker wrote: post #88

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What exactly prevents you from using Firefox profiles? They are working fine, for me at least. I can't see a reason for Firefox devs to be ashamed.

Personally it's the integrations. I have a Chromebook, which integrates with GSuite, and integrates with Android. I can manage extensions, permissions, etc, all from there. This is important since I use this Chromebook for work, but it would be cumbersome to run Firefox and Chrome simultaneously. With Firefox I get just-a-browser, and I need more than that. If Firefox had a way for me to manage the browser across dev…

First, you can sync your browser with your Firefox account, so this is I guess what you want?

Second, for the Google (Gsuite, Android) integration, you could just use a work browser (aka Chrome).

Third, if you use all that Google stuff in your private life, I don't really see why you would be worried about Manifest 3-related privacy and ads/tracking matters anyway. I mean, Google already has your data.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by aj3 »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #220

One of the interesing things about this story is that there appears to be no consideration of not "updating" to a new Chrome version. The idea of user choice in "updating" is completely absent. Why cannot a user say, "V3 sounds wonderful but I will stick with V2, thank you." A user has a version of a program that works for that user (e.g., with uBlock Origin), and Google can apparently forcibly stop that user from us…

There were over a dozen of 0day exploits this year alone. Some used in water hole style attacks, so not even that targeted. And these are state of the art incidents which would have pwned even users with all the updates installed.

After the patch has been pushed out, exploits become progressively cheaper so letting users to postpone security updates is a crime.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by nicce »

staticassertion wrote: post #208
fuckcensorship wrote: post #188

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There is an issue open on the uBlock Origin GitHub[1] which discusses the technical aspect of these changes in much more detail. [1]: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338

This should be in the first post. The reddit thread is crowded and mostly useless information.

Also the title is a bit misleading. The functionality is lost in year on practice (actual impact), not in month.

V2 functionality for existing extensions will not work on January 2023. They stop accepting new extensions with V2 on the next January.

https://developer.chrome.com/blog/mv2-transition/

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