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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by montag »

dmje wrote: post #41

Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I remember rightly, Photoshop had an "export to slices" thing built in. Amazing. Loved it. And of course one of the biggest issues with today's web: you can't just view source and copy paste. You're in the land of chasing back up CSS files, js libraries, or find…

Source maps could be a saving grace here, if only more sites would ship them in production.

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Post by oblio »

irrational wrote: post #162
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish interviews were like this. Show them something you built and you get hired instead of the nonsense of leetcode.

I got hired on at a Fortune 500 company in the early 2000s. One of the reasons I've stuck around (besides the great pay and benefits) is that I've read all the horror stories of leetcode interviews. I have zero interest in participating in that nonsense. One benefit of this is, when I am interviewing people to fill development position, I never do any of that leetcode nonsense.

You should still check out to see if your pay is competitive for your role, level, etc.

Even an awesome environment might be worth moving away from if your pay goes up 50-100%. Especially if you're not super frugal or have expenses due to other reasons.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by oblio »

Frost1x wrote: post #114
robbyking wrote: post #95

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I recently came across an image I wasn't able to download using dev tools and was shocked. I wish I had had the time to figure it out.

If it's visible, it's capturable, it's simply a matter of how obfuscated it is and how much effort you want to spend capturing it. In highly dynamic web apps these days, it could be simple as a right click or as complex as figuring out their rendering system, source data stream, generated key handshake to verify it's the script accessing the data and not a person, and so on. I see this sort of trash a lot more than I…

Well, you can just PrntScrn it as a last resort, if it's not a background image :-)

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by mattl »

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #180

The author forgot making rounded corners using images! I kind of miss the creativity of old web development, especially before responsive web design. There was so much more variation and most sites didn't look like the default bootstrap template. But there were a lot of bad things about this era, particularly non standard browsers

I remember a great trick from Technorati where you’d load one image of a circle with CSS background and reposition it four times with tags. It was a work of art.

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Post by davidsojevic »

ornornor wrote: post #169
jspash wrote: post #106

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Except now it just shows Good luck with that!

I’ve struggled for ever with modern pages to find out what even listeners are attached to particular html elements. Is that even possible to find out? Say you’re on a webpage, and when you click a button a bunch of JS happens. Except it’s all minifies uglified. But the browser must know what JS will run when clicking that button. How do I make it show me what that code/function is without trawling through the JS code…

In Chrome you can get the event listeners for a given element by selecting/highlighting it in the Elements tab, then jumping across to the Console tab, you use:

  getEventListeners($0)
getEventListeners is a Chrome console/devtools only function and $0 is a console placeholder variable for the currently selected element.

It's definitely not the nicest way to find things and you often end up running into the minified/uglified madness when delving deeper, but sometimes it helps do the trick.

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Post by megablast »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #124
rufus_foreman wrote: post #120

My first software dev job was in the 90's writing PHP for a mom and pop ISP that was trying to get into app development. It was originally supposed to be Perl, the job interview was something like: Me: demos CRUD app for keeping track of my record collection, hosted on a free site Owner: You wrote this? Me: Yeah. Owner: This is in Perl? Me: Yeah. So I got hired. The day I got there, he told me they were going to use…

I wish interviews were like this. Show them something you built and you get hired instead of the nonsense of leetcode.

It is if you’ve built something.

Most people don’t have much to show.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by leephillips »

ravenstine wrote: post #59
davidbarker wrote: post #11

That's the first time I've heard DHTML to mean "distributed HTML" — I always knew it to mean "dynamic HTML".

Am I the only one who found the term DHTML to be one of the most useless initialisms that came from web development? I remember seeing "DHTML" still being thrown around as late as 2005, but knowing that I could refer to the components of a webpage as "DHTML" never seemed to have any sort of utility. I never cared that I could refer to the markup as being dynamic . Big deal. What scripts and applets could I add to mak…

But.....it’s dynamic.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Post by leephillips »

chrisco255 wrote: post #111
benbristow wrote: post #37

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HTML NFT's

HTML based NFTs are a thing. You can reference arbitrary HTML & JS from the 'animation_url' in the NFT's metadata and produce interactive NFTs. ArcadeNFT is an example of a project that utilizes this: https://opensea.io/assets/0xa0c38108bbb0f5f2fb46a2019d7314cc...

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