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Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by tlrobinson » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:45 PM UTC

daviding wrote: post #36

If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…

> I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it.

I know I don't. It's a dystopian nightmare for an advertising company to be building "the metaverse".

I hope all the other players in this space band together and form an open, federated metaverse.

It's one use-case I can kind of see benefiting from blockchain protocols: enforcing digital scarcity in a federated metaverse, by recording transfers of avatars and assets between the "metaworlds" making up the metaverse ("digital identity scarcity" is still an unsolved problem though, I think)

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by shaunxcode » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:45 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #86

daviding wrote: post #36

If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…

We could rename metaverse. Maybe derive prefixes from chemistry? Meta, ortho, para. Paraverse. Orthoverse. We can't keep using metaverse now.

I am fond of holoverse. Holonic not holographic.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by smilespray » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:45 PM UTC

7373737373 wrote: post #161

brap wrote: post #125

The video they put out is extremely cringe. The whole “metaverse” thing is cringe. It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men who never challenge him and only tell him what he likes to hear. He is truly detached from us normal people and our human experience.

I wish he'd just present as his awkward true self, instead of this prerecorded, fake cringefest, something Musk doesn't shy away from

Add Peter Thiel to this couple and we have a good game of "fuck, marry, kill".

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by aserdf » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

i wonder, if one declines to participate in the "metaverse", will their shadow profile be randomly inserted, and vandalized/ridiculed by other versians?

sidenote - if i am understanding correctly, its conceptually similar to modus operandi from back in the 90s? just in VR?

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by mrweasel » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

daviding wrote: post #36

If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…

While I’m not interested in VR at all, and only feel like should be used in limited areas, I agree on the issue of Facebook owning “the metaverse”. Many of the early adopters are already of Facebook and/or dislike the company, meaning that there are few people to help push the products.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by avsbst » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

avsbst wrote: post #165

pazimzadeh wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like it's still up? https://www.meta.org/

11:45ish they will put a banner up saying it's going to be shutdown end of May next year Unfortunately archive.org is capturing the SVG logo from the site not the actual site so I can't prove the current state of the website but you can look at the last valid capture from 10/22: https://web.archive.org/web/20211022094334/https://www.meta....

Right on cue: "Meta.org will sunset March 31, 2022: Meta will be supported through March 31, 2022. In the lead up, we will work with you in transitioning to alternative open services. Read more."

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by grantc » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

TillE wrote: post #79

I don't understand what Facebook is even doing in terms of a metaverse. Like they have the VR goggles, but what are they actually doing with it? Coincidentally, MMO developer Raph Koster (Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies) has recently been detailing in a series of articles what his new company is doing in terms of building a metaverse, and it's pretty exciting in gaming terms. https://www.playableworlds.com/news/rif…

Even if they're at 0% done in terms of what happens after you connect to a digital world via immersive conduits, $10B a year can put a dent in that burndown.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by petersonh » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

LOL trying to watch the keynote but keep getting asked to login to Facebook and then since I don't have an account, I get the boot. I think that about sums it up.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by kaladin-jasnah » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

jamestimmins wrote: post #90

toomuchtodo wrote: post #69

Dystopian Ready Player One.

Fairly certain that's just Ready Player One

It's not. In the story (the book), the company that runs the metaverse (Gregarious Systems) is portrayed as a "benevolent" company that somewhat respects its users and acts in the best interest of people (you may be thinking of the intentions of IOI and Nolan Sorrento, the adverserial company that sound like our Facebook).

Uh, there's also an unfounded claim in the story that the metaverse software (the OASIS) is open-source, but the author only mentions it once and this claim isn't exactly supported by the rest of the story (at least to me).

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Post by dstroot » Thu, Oct 28, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

glogla wrote: post #194

jfmc wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A Facebook-controlled metaverse, rising gas prices... it is only a matter of time that humans ends up being used as batteries.

Fun fact, in Matrix (if that's what you're referring to) people were originally enslaved by the machines to provide compute capacity of their brains. The battery part came later, when someone (studio executives?) jumped in, and said that's too smart and people wouldn't get it so it was changed to batteries.

Meta already has enough compute capacity. They have enslaved humans to mine their wallets.