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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by schaefer »

dylan604 wrote: post #25
41209 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just saw the announcement for the new HTC Vive standalone. I'm going to wait until someone figures out a way to run games on the thing, and then I might consider dropping $600 on that setup. It's not a great idea to buy products which require you to hack them.

Unless your an, ahem, hacker. What site is this? Then these kinds of things make you drool at the possibilities.

Chances are they’re talking about the vive flow, which released today. General consensus is it lacks mini-oled and the resolution it would need to be “next gen’. Among other bizarre shortcomings

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Post by narism »

gear54rus wrote: post #211
LegitShady wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't spend money with oculus, as they're a company based on stolen technology who tried to consolize the VR market with exclusives they purchased. Paying them money is cutting your own throat.

I pretty much agree but what do you mean stolen tech?

They are probably talking about ZeniMax v. Oculus. ZeniMax owned the company where John Carmack worked. While the original Oculus Rift was being prototyped and later crowdfunded, Carmack was interested in VR and worked on the code/headset to get Doom 3 running on it. He later left to become the Oculus CTO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_v._Oculus

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by beezischillin »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194
polyomino wrote: post #185

This reminds me of the time that Steve Ballmer did an Q&A with Microsoft interns saying basically that he's happy everyone in China pirates Windows because then Microsoft sets the standard.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

I don’t really think he was worried, they sell endless amounts of licenses to the government.

In Hungary Ballmer got eggs thrown at him by an OSS activist for that exact reason in 08.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by malermeister »

canada_dry wrote: post #135

Won't Oculus simply add some oculess detection code to their next developer release so that any future apps and updates to existing apps stop working all together if detected?

And then inevitably somebody will find a way around that. It's a cat-and-mouse game as old as the concept of digital licensing - see the piracy space, where all sorts of uncrackable protections keep getting cracked

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Post by LegitShady »

fastball wrote: post #209
LegitShady wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the court of law, probably, although it will depend on how much was discussed in advance with those employees of valve. But ethically, oculus is bankrupt.

Still not following how it is ethically wrong to accept technology freely given by others.

The employees who advocated 'freely giving' the technology away jumped off to the other company basically right away. It was sabotage by unethical employees.

If that's unclear to you, you're probably going to have problems on the ethics exam.

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Post by numpad0 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #213
mmastrac wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This will be a massive licensing stream in the future"

Do you really think "old" Microsoft thought that far into the future for this back then? This was before the days of software becoming walled-garden lock-in subscription-ware; when quarterly revenue relied solely on the number of licenses sold and pirated licenses were seen as lost revenue. I assumed they just though that if everyone had only legit copies, then Microsoft's revenues would quintuple overnight effective…

Pirated Windows also ensures competitors are semi-permanently extinguished. 2007 is only third year for Ubuntu, and GNU/Linux is still the only more-than-semi-viable alternative for PC/AT other than Windows almost 15 years later.

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Post by judge2020 »

beezischillin wrote: post #223
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

I don’t really think he was worried, they sell endless amounts of licenses to the government. In Hungary Ballmer got eggs thrown at him by an OSS activist for that exact reason in 08.

I feel like a national government would be the last org to need to worry about licensing software, given lawsuits won’t do much and nobody’s going to start a war over it.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by sgregnt »

dylan604 wrote: post #8
system2 wrote: post #7

Why not HTC Vive though? Better development, better privacy, more game support.

Don't take away the satisfaction this dev received from accomplishing a big FUCK YOU to the Zuck by releasing this. I'm sure it'll be a cat&mouse type of situation where Oculus will release an update that renders this useless, then these devs will update their end, and on it goes.

In my opinion a world is a much better place with people like Zuck.

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Post by wesleywt »

judge2020 wrote: post #228
beezischillin wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t really think he was worried, they sell endless amounts of licenses to the government. In Hungary Ballmer got eggs thrown at him by an OSS activist for that exact reason in 08.

I feel like a national government would be the last org to need to worry about licensing software, given lawsuits won’t do much and nobody’s going to start a war over it.

Governments do business with foreign companies and governments.
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