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Right click for people with real mice
I have a real mouse. I didn't know that until yet! The long click has still the advantage that you don't need to click more than once: You can just hold the button, mouse-over the wanted entry, and than release the button triggering navigation to the history entry currently under the cursor.
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I'm going to reply with a comment stolen from a different HN discussion: The fact that people (myself included) have 100s of tabs open is a symptom of just how broken bookmarking is on the modern web. Bookmarks are a miserable way to create a placeholder for your thoughts. It's too static, must be maintained, and generally prone to link rot. I'm a scientist. I open and read 10-20-100 links for a given topic depending…
That and the fact bookmark may ends up in a removed page, orphan link. Essentially people leave tabs open meant to keep a cache of it, maybe subconsciously. Bookmark doesn't do that. I don't mind maintaining it, so sometimes I use getpocket for that purpose but getpocket is not organized and frankly is not made for this purpose.
Except in the immediate short-term, keeping a tab open doesn't really fully help in that regard, though – even if the browser doesn't autonomously unloads tabs, sooner or later most people will eventually need to restart the browser and/or computer for updates, old pages are eventually evicted from the browser cache, and so tabs suffer from link rot just the same as bookmarks do.
1. Just. Fucking. Unload. The. Tab. Already. I keep tabs around for context and reference. Lots of them. [1] 2. Preserve. User. State. I don't want the page to reload. I want what had been there to be restored. Page position, content, any inputs or adjustments I'd made. Not updated data, but previous state. 3. Do. Not. Lose. My. Shit. I can accomplish this far better myself than you will ever have need to do. 4. Any…
I can never understand people that have more than 10 tabs open :P When I reach that number I start closing. Seems to me just a waste of space and the whole tab bar is useless and messy (yes, I know about tab extensions). People should really get back to bookmarks, thats what they are for. Besides my usual bookmark folders, I have folders to hold temporary bookmarks (ToRead, ResearchSupport, etc...). These I know I wi…
Tab bar is indeed messy, I use Tree Style Tab in the side bar. And dozens of categorized windows, each with a name.
I don't need an alternative or better way. It works great and I hope this use case remains supported.
It’s interesting to me that the lack of this feature has been one of the key differentiating features of browsers on desktop OSes compared to mobile browsers, such as Safari on iPads (and iPhones). It’s hard to do serious work on a mobile device that may silently unload a tab with unfinished work just because it was placed in background, whereas desktop browsers somewhat guaranteed that wouldn’t happen. In a way this…
This. Mobile devices are so utterly unsuited to actual productive use for this very reason. (I'm quite familiar with this, have attempted to use them in this manner for years, and am typing this on a Chrome/Android session I utterly despise.) The problem extends to other tools -- Termux, useful as it is, also randomly gets garbage collected and killed. Best I can understand, Android actually employs some AI-based mem…
From following the bug tracker this definitively seems to be a problem with Firefox now – I wonder how Chrome gets around that problem, though? Do they suffer from the same problem, have they found some neat workaround, or are they cheating and being specially whitelisted by the OS?
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Back basically works like it always did on static sites. Blame the fashion for single-page apps and endless scrolling for it being broken.
No. Blame browsers for not being user-agents any more. Browsers can cache websites, but only if websites tell them to do so. Users are never asked ( there is no setting ). And since websites usually don't want to be cached (for too long) browsers have to reload them ( which takes time ). Thats the reason Back-buttons are slow. Thats ( one of ) the reason(s) everybody has 100+ tabs open. SPAs and infinite scroll are (…
Unrelated, but how do I get Firefox / Iceraven Android to _not_ unload tabs? It's really annoying when I want to load article pages for offline reading then Firefox just decides it wants to load the page again in Airplane mode.
If your phone is known for aggressive memory management (https://dontkillmyapp.com/), maybe exempting Firefox from its memory optimisations (if that's possible) might help a little, but no guarantees.
Kudos to the devs who fixed it. In my c++ project I was trying for weeks to figure out how to release back to the OS the memory that my std::vector was occupying, only to find out that there is no straight forward way of achieving so.
Detecting low memory scenarios is surprisingly hard on desktop operating systems, but trivially simple on Android/iOS. Firefox for Android already made extensive use of this feature while desktop Firefox' available memory watcher underwent a lot of changes over the years before becoming fairly reliable.
I use the Sidebery addon for Firefox, set auto-fold to off and unload folded tabs to on. When I'm working on something, I keep all the branches that I need open, and when I'm done with that particular topic, I fold the branch, the tabs get unloaded, and I have a pretty list of squished branches that I can expand and get back to if I so wish. And if I'm really done with one, I can easily bookmark it and put it do "deep storage." It took 15 years of using Firefox but I finally have a tab management system that I'm happy with.
It’s interesting to me that the lack of this feature has been one of the key differentiating features of browsers on desktop OSes compared to mobile browsers, such as Safari on iPads (and iPhones). It’s hard to do serious work on a mobile device that may silently unload a tab with unfinished work just because it was placed in background, whereas desktop browsers somewhat guaranteed that wouldn’t happen. In a way this…
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I can never understand people that have more than 10 tabs open :P When I reach that number I start closing. Seems to me just a waste of space and the whole tab bar is useless and messy (yes, I know about tab extensions). People should really get back to bookmarks, thats what they are for. Besides my usual bookmark folders, I have folders to hold temporary bookmarks (ToRead, ResearchSupport, etc...). These I know I wi…
1404 tabs open here. Tab bar is indeed messy, I use Tree Style Tab in the side bar. And dozens of categorized windows, each with a name. I don't need an alternative or better way. It works great and I hope this use case remains supported.
I can't relate to that amount of tabs, but do have an upper limit of around 100 at which time I start actively trimming them down (either dismiss as having lost importance, digest or bookmark for later digestion).
My bookmarks steadily grow, but are categorized, tagged and labelled in such a way that I can easily find and digest certain types of urls later on when I feel ready for it. They do grow faster then I can consume them though.