Facebook-owned sites were down • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by spiantino » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:28 PM UTC

skizm wrote: post #131

yawnxyz wrote: post #113

Funny enough, I went to https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ to check if Facebook is down, and isitdownrightnow is down itself... probably from the massive number requests coming to check if Facebook is down

https://downdetector.com/ seems to be working for me at least.

It's amusing that the top 3 trending reports are the FB sites that are down, and then the mobile carriers themselves, presumably because when FB doesn't load they assume it's their mobile network's fault. People really do think FB is the internet

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by GDC7 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:28 PM UTC

Maybe intentional?

Zuck trying to give an example of what a world without FB would look like, kinda saying to detractors what would happen if they had it their way.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by dessant » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:28 PM UTC

hkai wrote: post #195

drcongo wrote: post #66

Let's hope it's permanent.

Why?

Because combined with the abysmal state of education in most places, and a general lack of government action, Facebook is an actual threat to our civilization.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by yholio » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

I had problems with my internet connection and loaded my ISPs site. Strangely, my bill was paid. Even stranger, some sites load while others do not.

Then it hit me: I am so dependent on Facebook owned properties (Whatsapp, Facebook, insta) that a Facebook failure looks to me like an internet failure.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by deadalus » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

eeegnu wrote: post #199

elboru wrote: post #169

Is it just me or HN also feels kinda laggy?

Probably people flooding in to see if anyone knows why things are down. Even Google speed test was down, presumably from too many people testing if it's their internet that's at issue.

https://www.speedtest.net is down too

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by nicholasjon » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

rainboiboi wrote: post #40

Just wondering - would the engineer who made the mistake be fired?

"Asking for a friend."

I kid. If it were to come down to a single person, that's really a failure of the whole organization system and not of the individual.

This apocryphal [1] punchline to the Jack Welch story also sums up how most orgs deal with this sort of thing:

"I just spent a million dollars on your education - why would I fire you now?"

[1]: http://www.nickmilton.com/2016/03/jack-welch-on-learning-fro...

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by i_like_apis » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

elboru wrote: post #169

Is it just me or HN also feels kinda laggy?

Probably traffic related. Lots of people reallocated to checking other sites.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by forix » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

GDC7 wrote: post #222

Maybe intentional? Zuck trying to give an example of what a world without FB would look like, kinda saying to detractors what would happen if they had it their way.

That would be classic Zuck right there

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by rvz » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:30 PM UTC

From [0]

> ...there is no limit to the scandals, leaks, whistleblowers, lawsuits or penalties that will bring the Facebook mafia down.

Fine. 'Literally' bringing the Facebook mafia down like that would do.

But only for now.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28742179

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by sparrish » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 4:31 PM UTC

sparrish wrote: post #149

sparrish wrote: post #19

Seems to be DNS related. None of the listed facebook nameservers are resolvable or reachable: a.ns.facebook.com b.ns.facebook.com c.ns.facebook.com d.ns.facebook.com

Looks like the routing is goofed. Loops over and over - DDoS attacking themselves. mtr -r -c10 -w -b a.ns.facebook.com Start: 2021-10-04T10:02:50-0600 Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev ... 4.|-- ae-2-rur101.cosprings.co.denver.comcast.net (162.151.51.125) 0.0% 10 12.6 11.9 9.6 19.0 2.9 5.|-- 24.124.155.233 0.0% 10 9.3 10.2 9.1 12.4 1.1 6.|-- 96.216.22.45 0.0% 10 12.0 14.0 11.6 31.3 6.1 7.|-- be-36041-cs04.1601milehi…

Same issue over at b.ns.facebook.com Looping routing creating self-inflicted DDoS

mtr -r -c10 -n b.ns.facebook.com

Start: 2021-10-04T10:28:03-0600 Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev

  1.|-- 192.168.1.1                0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.3   0.0 

  2.|-- 96.120.12.229              0.0%    10   10.2  10.8   8.8  15.7   1.9 

  3.|-- 96.110.149.185             0.0%    10   17.7  13.6   9.8  32.3   7.0 

  4.|-- 162.151.51.125             0.0%    10   10.9  12.2   9.6  15.3   1.9 

  5.|-- 24.124.155.233             0.0%    10   13.0  10.4   9.4  13.0   1.2 

  6.|-- 96.216.22.45               0.0%    10   16.5  16.7  11.2  29.1   6.4 

  7.|-- 96.110.43.241              0.0%    10   17.4  13.6  11.9  17.4   1.6 

  8.|-- 96.110.38.114              0.0%    10   12.5  12.8  12.0  14.0   0.6 

  9.|-- 173.167.59.170             0.0%    10   36.1  19.3  11.6  36.1   9.7 

 10.|-- 129.134.40.76              0.0%    10   13.1  12.3  11.3  13.1   0.6 

 11.|-- 129.134.34.72              0.0%    10   15.3  15.7  13.5  21.3   2.5 

 12.|-- 129.134.102.85             0.0%    10   39.0  39.2  38.0  40.8   1.0 

 13.|-- 31.13.25.13                0.0%    10   30.5  29.8  28.5  31.0   0.9 

 14.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0 

 15.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0 

 16.|-- 31.13.25.13               90.0%    10   30.2  30.2  30.2  30.2   0.0

On a side note... why is it so freaking hard to format line breaks in HN?