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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by arcatech »

alex_munroe wrote: post #13
LeoPanthera wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

For the same reason all the orthodox authoritarian ideologies are disturbing. Why would I want to join an online discussion forum where free thought isn't welcome? Having "leftist" in the description makes people (at least myself) automatically jump to the conclusion that one can get cancelled/banned/deplatformed for posting any thought or argument that disagrees with the mainstream. I'm not a conservative or anti-va…

> Why would I want to join an online discussion forum where free thought isn't welcome?

Every community has ideas about what's right and wrong, and there will always be people who disagree. Moderation will always be required because that's just the nature of communities.

> Politics aside - I wonder if it would be possible to create an instance focused on free speech, without automatically attracting all the worst people?

To the point I just made: no, it's not possible refrain from moderating a community and then avoid having people there who engage in behavior you don't like. If your definition of "free speech" includes a complete lack of moderation, then you'll always run into this problem.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by benhurmarcel »

strenholme wrote: post #108
unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

The problem with Retalk is this: It’s closed sourced. If we want to talk about Reddit alternatives, I would rather we look at ones which are open source, including Reddit itself until 2017 [1], the Mastodon Twitter-like web app [2], Discourse [3], Lemmy [4] (use a fork [5] if you can’t stand the slur filter), and the old school PHP discussions boards like PhpBB [6] and MyBB [7]. [1] https://github.com/reddit-archive/…

There’s also https://tildes.net/

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by unbad505 »

darthrupert wrote: post #2

Lemmy's default instance leans heavily to the contemporary american idea of leftism. This doesn't affect the actual software in any way, only that community is a bit disturbing.

FWIF lemmy.ml isn't meant to be the default, but it is still run by the devs.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by mariusor »

strenholme wrote: post #108
unraveller wrote: post #39

The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

The problem with Retalk is this: It’s closed sourced. If we want to talk about Reddit alternatives, I would rather we look at ones which are open source, including Reddit itself until 2017 [1], the Mastodon Twitter-like web app [2], Discourse [3], Lemmy [4] (use a fork [5] if you can’t stand the slur filter), and the old school PHP discussions boards like PhpBB [6] and MyBB [7]. [1] https://github.com/reddit-archive/…

Allow me to add one more, built by me, which is closer to lemmy in functionality being also built on top of ActivityPub: https://github.com/mariusor/go-littr

A test instance is at https://littr.me

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by kypro »

M2Ys4U wrote: post #130
kypro wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you even paying attention? This isn't true. You can be censored from social media for all sorts these days. This last year we had a UK media organisation banned from YouTube for questioning the UK COVID response. People in the US are no longer allowed to question the legitimacy of their elections on most social media platforms. Even US media outlets like the NYPost were censored for running stories Twitter didn't…

>I'm not coming at this from any political position. Saying that after your previous paragraphs doesn't erase the political content of that previous paragraphs.

I meant more in the sense of classical left/right divide -- I felt the parent commenter was suggesting it's just right-wing troll types that are being censored, which isn't the case.

I'm definitely in favour of free-speech, I'm just not particularly left or right wing in my political views or voting habits.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Post by rektide »

rektide wrote: post #3
darthrupert wrote: post #2

Lemmy's default instance leans heavily to the contemporary american idea of leftism. This doesn't affect the actual software in any way, only that community is a bit disturbing.

not disturbing. good.

i genuinely think this sort of good, do for ourselves, improve the world attempt- software as public good- is something that the left has a far far stronger bead on. the right, for all their history of rugged individualism, doesn't have a participatory background, doesn't have techno-inclusivity & open cyber-frontiers in their value-system.

it's unastounding to me in the extreme that the right has very little presence on most of the fediverse.

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