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Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

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Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

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I feel like any criticism that centered around “it’s difficult to be in the top 200” is just ridiculous and sounds Like it’s just sour grapes from someone who failed at making something good and can’t accept that.

There is nothing any platform can do to have more items in their top 200. That’s just not possible. It’s not a problem in the platform that you didn’t make it to the top 200.

Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

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post #207

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To combine the numbers: Roblox takes 75% of each sale. This means the developer needs to make 400,000 in Robux sales before the developer accumulates 100,000 Robux for cash withdrawal. If 100,000 Robux is sold for $1,000, and 100,000 Robux only nets the developer $350, then the double dip gives Roblox a net 91.25% of developer sales. This excludes any applicable taxes or app store fees.

They don't combine like that, because the 75% already takes into account the double dip. User spends $100 USD to buy 10000 robux. User buys item for 10000 robux in a game. Developer of game gets 7000 robux (dip #1). Developer of game withdraws to USD. 100000 robux = $350 (dip #2) so developer gets $24.5 USD. Overall 24.5/100 = 24.5%. In reality the numbers don't always come exactly to this, because robux can cost dif…

Thats only for one transacrion between users though.For every additional transaction the money goes through, the roblox takes even more of a cut.

Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

#223

Upon further reflection, I think I've figured out why my kids and I don't see this as exploitative - they're not trying to get rich or famous. I'm not trying to be mean to anyone, but if you look at all of the complaints through the filter of someone who wants to a) learn to make a video game, b) learn some programming, and c) make a cool game to share with his friends, then Roblox is a really fun, free, and easy way…

I am really surprised by this attitude. I think most of the negative comments here are fueld by a perception of unfairness in general and not any drive to become famous or anything.

You basically seem to advocate for a world where it is ok for platform developers to double maybe tripple dip on transactions that only exist because of the hard work of others. I for myself don’t want to live in a world where this is par for the course. It should be called out and people should be made aware of injustice. It’s not about becoming rich or famous yourself but just realizing unfairness if you see it and ideally taking action on it so that the world may become a better place for all.

Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

#224

Upon further reflection, I think I've figured out why my kids and I don't see this as exploitative - they're not trying to get rich or famous. I'm not trying to be mean to anyone, but if you look at all of the complaints through the filter of someone who wants to a) learn to make a video game, b) learn some programming, and c) make a cool game to share with his friends, then Roblox is a really fun, free, and easy way…

I am really surprised by this attitude. I think most of the negative comments here are fueld by a perception of unfairness in general and not any drive to become famous or anything. You basically seem to advocate for a world where it is ok for platform developers to double maybe tripple dip on transactions that only exist because of the hard work of others. I for myself don’t want to live in a world where this is par…

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Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

#225

Upon further reflection, I think I've figured out why my kids and I don't see this as exploitative - they're not trying to get rich or famous. I'm not trying to be mean to anyone, but if you look at all of the complaints through the filter of someone who wants to a) learn to make a video game, b) learn some programming, and c) make a cool game to share with his friends, then Roblox is a really fun, free, and easy way…

Btw. did you really talk to your kids about this and really explained them the situation in a way they can appreciate it? For instance, take a large number of treats divide them on the table and show them who gets what for a game they built… I think this would be a exceptionally great case to discuss business ethics and the perils of unregulated markets in a way that resonates with kids. Don’t leave this opportunity on the table!

Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

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post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, anything that takes the work of a person (making a video, writing a game, writing a blog) is labor.

You skipped the "free" part. YouTube givea you "free" labor by hosting your video.

That’s not labor. At least not in any meaningful sense. No human is doing any work specifically to host your video.

Re: Roblox faces criticism for 'exploiting' young game developers

#227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you were downvoted but you're right. YouTube, in a total inversion of the TV business model, doesn't pay creators for anything until after it's been monetized -- and then they take a cut first. The cut is so early in the process that millions of videos are monetized and the creators are not even aware, much less paid. This is the reverse of the Hollywood TV model where you paid creators first and then tr…

Youtube creators can take their content elsewhere, at any time I believe. Traditional TV studios have longer term contracts and there are often more folks involved than lone YouTubers and their patrons.

They can take their content, but not their audience, making the whole thing rather useless. The only thing that enables that in film is the relative neutrality of cinemas and streaming platforms.
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