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Re: Please log in with router's password

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That's not how it works. Shodan continuously checks all IPs on the Internet. When you visit the website you're checking for existing information in the database. Your use of the Shodan website/ API doesn't change how Shodan crawls the Internet.

How do I check my server, which doesn't have a browser installed?

Easiest is probably a SOCKS proxy

ssh -D9999 yourserver

then set up the SOCKS proxy in your browser's settings

Re: Please log in with router's password

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> Folks - these routers are secure. There is nothing to see here, move along. If experience is any guide, they are not. Consumer routers have horrible track of embarrassing, easily exploitable vulnerabilities. That are not patched for a long time or ever. And exposing your router to public like that suggests the owner knows very little about security. This typically goes in hand with other neglect. Tell me, how many…

What router does HN recommend for consumers? I personally run Ubiquiti Unifi gear, but they're not exactly consumer friendly (more geared to power users).

Grab an old office computer stick and Intel NIC and run OPNsense [0] on it. I've got an old Lenovo ThinkStation and it works brilliantly.

[0] https://opnsense.org/

Re: Please log in with router's password

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If it's a static site? Probably safe-ish, I suppose bots and bored teens could DDOS it. You could also choose a non-standard port, that might cut down on the noise.

Thanks! I want to learn what could go wrong. Can you point me to any resource/book to study this particular matter?

I would recommend you put it behind Cloudflare, it will mask your home IP address and will absorb any attacks

https://skylar.tech/create-fast-websites-from-your-home-netw...

Re: Please log in with router's password

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Let's say I social engineer a password out of one of these people. What can I do with that?

You can set up a VPN and connect directly to their network. You can put one of their computers into the DMZ and expose all its open ports to the internet. You could engage in denial of service by blocking their devices or messing with the WAN configuration. You could set their network to use a malicious DNS server and direct them to hosts that you control.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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Here is another example of what Google wasn't designed to do: https://www.google.com/search?q=intitle%3A%22index+of%22+mp3

What is this showing?

Open directories with direct links to mp3 files. You can try replacing mp3 with movies, shows, etc.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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Folks - these routers are secure. There is nothing to see here, move along. Here's the user manual for the TP-Link AC2300 "Archer C7", as found in the google results: https://static.tp-link.com/2019/201912/20191231/7106508598_A... Step 2 of first time setup forces a default password change. There is no way around this step. The defaults for the router also do not allow router access from the WAN port. This means: 1)…

> these routers are secure. Owner of a C7 v4 here. There has not been a firmware update from TP-Link since December 2019 (note that v4 is the second-most recent HW revision). No way these are not affected by at least some CVE somewhere in their stack. Calling them secure is a leap of faith that TP-Link does not deserve. I recently flashed openwrt exactly to be able to be on a more recent stack. I would never dream ex…

Same model, but the interface showed build 20180316 as "up to date", and when I've tried manually downloading the 2019 build it showed "invalid type". Swapped it with DD-wrt not long ago (DD-wrt support was why I've decided on this model, but I was too lazy to do that before).

Re: Please log in with router's password

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There are thousands of TP-LINK routers whose WAN port 80/443 is exposed to the Internet, allowing access to their administration interface if you know the password (or a vulnerability is present).

And I'd bet a nice amount that most of them have the default passwords. Some years ago I wrote a little tool to iterate all of an ISP's ip addresses and around 90% were using default passwords. Mostly homes, but some businesses.

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Re: Please log in with router's password

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There are thousands of TP-LINK routers whose WAN port 80/443 is exposed to the Internet, allowing access to their administration interface if you know the password (or a vulnerability is present).

And I'd bet a nice amount that most of them have the default passwords. Some years ago I wrote a little tool to iterate all of an ISP's ip addresses and around 90% were using default passwords. Mostly homes, but some businesses.

The ISP assigned a unique password and puts it as a label beneath the router - in my case. I kept it. I consider it save enough.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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Thanks! I want to learn what could go wrong. Can you point me to any resource/book to study this particular matter?

I would recommend you put it behind Cloudflare, it will mask your home IP address and will absorb any attacks https://skylar.tech/create-fast-websites-from-your-home-netw...

Please don't do that. It's a terrible idea because CloudFlare will then get to decide who gets to see your website or not (and CloudFlare hates privacy tech like Tor), and also because then CloudFlare will terminate the HTTPS (TLS) connection on their side so they essentially get to know all your passwords.

I've selfhosted on 64Kbit/s modem then xDSL for years without a problem (apart from bots trying default passwords). If you are really afraid you'll run into DDOS attacks and whatnot, consider using a small 2-5$/mo VPS as reverse-proxy instead of CloudFlare to retain control of your infrastructure.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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What router does HN recommend for consumers? I personally run Ubiquiti Unifi gear, but they're not exactly consumer friendly (more geared to power users).

Grab an old office computer stick and Intel NIC and run OPNsense [0] on it. I've got an old Lenovo ThinkStation and it works brilliantly. [0] https://opnsense.org/

That is, assuming you have plenty of time.

I don't.

Is it too much to ask to have competently built hardware with competent software for a reasonable price enabled by mass production?

I mean, just don't make stupid things like open access to it from a single point of failure where a single engineer can loose their AWS key and enable attackers to access million networks?

Or build devices that overheat placed on an open shelf in home office in truly unreasonably hot Polish climate?

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