No thanks.
TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As opposed to US based networks? There are important differences between being influenced by domestic actors, as part of a domestic political process, and being influenced by foreign actors. The latter is a far more serious threat to political independence. It's also pretty well documented that the PRC political authorities already use its domestic social networks in this way.
It's also documented that Cambridge Analytica used data made available to it by Facebook to target millions with political propaganda. It wasn't just the US election, they had plenty of practice validating the strategy in elections in smaller countries. Where's the evidence that TT has been successfully used for nefarious purposes on a similar scale?
> Where's the evidence that TT has been successfully used for nefarious purposes on a similar scale?
I don't need to see a particular bomb blow up to know it'll be dangerous when detonated.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 'culturally significant art' you're talking about was created for money. It's not any different than TikTok, it's just from long ago. TikTok is refined Vine and some of those Vines were worth preserving and spawned careers like ProZD.
Culturally significant art was created for money in a different way than a global brand like TikTok creates content for money habibi. They are not equivalent no matter how hard you try to fit your square block in the circular hole.
It's made by individuals, not TikTok? I'm not really sure if you know what TikTok is after this comment.
Just to clarify, TikTok does not do ad revenue sharing. They have a creator fund, but TikTok creators really make money via brand deals, merch sales and direct donations from fans.
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#224I'm baffled by the glowing endorsements of TikTok on Hacker News of all places. TikTok content comes across as completely vapid. It's like the worst possible mashup of bad television and social media. As a company TikTok seems to have zero goals beyond increasing engagement.
TikTok is the latest social media on its ascent. Perhaps they are impressed by its ability to keep the pigs eating. Or maybe they really like short videos. Hard to say.
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#225What is the advantage of installing the app over using your web browser?
You can’t even browse the website anymore unless you download the app or log in.
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#226I think one of the reasons for TikTok’s success is that the content exists outside a timeline. Every tried to figure out when a particular TikTok was posted? It’s very hidden. That means two things:
* More content for the algorithm to present. It’s quite happy to reach way back into the past to show you something you’ll like.
* No time-sensitive content. This suppresses a lot of the political and outrage-driven content that plagues Twitter and Facebook (and to a lesser extent, YouTube, which does seem to favor recent content)
As a result, like others I find TikTok a breath of fresh air on the internet.
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#227I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…
Re: the China thing, is Instagram's Reels not a better alternative? Where you know your data is only being spied on by non-totalitarian regimes?
The US has far more influence over most western countries than China ever will.
I'm much more worried about about what the US can do with all the data it collects on its allies than what China does.
Of course, I'd rather my government were to ensure the personal data of its citizens never leaves its boarders (similar to Germany). But that's far too much to ask of the UK.
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#228I'm really curious if China will go after bytedance next in its crackdown. My guess would be no. Alibaba, Tencent, DiDi, Meituan all are either local champions that have no competitive advantage overseas - and thus does not help China's growth. But TikTok actually represents that China might have a competitive advantage in deep learning algos that takes massive amount of data - therefore it would be spare from crackd…
Few global powers have their home made social networks spread in other countries, let alone in another global power. There’s a reason why Russia and China don’t let American social networks operate in their countries. They’ll protect TikTok, it’s valuable or will be.
Russia does allow American social networks. Facebook and Twitter are alive and kicking in Russia.
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#230Are we seeing apex Facebook? I still have a lot of friends that use it daily but it's all for things that don't hold a company with a 1T market cap. Anecdotal data: - Facebook usage from my feed it's just older family members posting cheesy political posts and selling items on marketplace - Instagram became a selling channel for brands, be it with their accounts or with "partnerships" with meme/influencer pages. I se…
> Are we seeing apex Facebook? One can only wish. Except for the fact that it's being replaced by something worse.
Back around 1990 I had the thought 'every new communications medium turns to sh*t eventually'. I think because it eventually gets dominated by grifters swindling marks of the lowest common denominator.
30 years on and I'm not wrong yet.