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iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Eh Apple users you can still download this app and it will stay on their phones after it is removed from the app store This post seems to mischaracterize what is going on and seems to be pre-prepared sentiment that has nothing to do with what actually is happening or going to happen Apple users can still file share dos games, if they download that app now. Not clear what level of device control you are reacting to, w…

It will stay on the phone, but won’t be available for downloading again since it’s being removed by Apple. Once the phone dies and the user buys a new phone, there won’t be a way to get this app unless the user copied the app package through a third party application on a Mac (Apple removed the ability to sync/backup app packages to a Mac since iTunes 12.7).

It so happened once that iPhone removed an app that I didn't use for some time to save space on the phone, leaving behind just an icon shortcut. When I tried to use it, it tried to download it back, but couldn't, because the app had been removed from the store.

So by default you can't count on your apps staying on the phone.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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It's quite bizarre that Apple just released an iPad Pro with a CPU that is more powerful than the desktop CPU in my workstation, but then cripples the device by severely restricting what kind of software you can run on it. I mainly use Linux but was looking for a secondary laptop/tablet hybrid for my office needs. I considered getting an iPad but ultimately went for a Surface Pro, which was the right choice I think.…

I can't run whatever I want on a Tesla's FSD unit.

Yeah but a Tesla isn't marketed as a computing device for "pros", while an iPad arguably is.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Sad… I played Kings Quest VI on an ipad with this emulator and it workers great. Why does Apple even care if a few people play some old abandonware on an ipad?

Well ... Exactly! I don't understand the rules or ehy it had to be removed. What about Pythonista and apps that let me code on my iPad? Don't they also "execute code"?

Please don't summon the dragon by uttering the name of the "P" app. I dread the day the Cupertino gang recognizes what can be done with it and makes it go away.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

GrapheneOS - android access with better than iphone security

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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post #196

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Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps. With Android, an individual app may or may not be a worse actor than it would be on an iOS device. But, it hardly matters since Google is primarily doing all the invasive tracking on an Android device, and you have zero control over this.

>Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps If you won't install any apps why bother with a smartphone then?

In my case, my job requires it. Otherwise I would only have a feature phone.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

The tables turn if you consider ownership of your app settings and internal data

On Android it is locked down in an inaccessible /data partition, unless rooted. (Ignoring /sdcard and the iOS equivalent Files app)

On iOS you can access almost the entire filesystem via extracting iTunes backups. You can freely dig into app internal database, files, message history, etc. You can even edit these backups and restore them, allowing full write access

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

>the behavior of those companies that completely disrespect and tramples their customer right Here is a "radical" idea: what if we had an Apple users union? What if Apple had to justify their app censorship to that union? What if the union could vote that censorship out? Our current capitalistic model assumes that competition is the solution for the consumer, but the Apple/Google stranglehold is essentially indisrupt…

Something like an agency to protect consumers?

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Privacy is actually behind on Apple, as long as they 1) don’t allow proper adblocking and 2) actively boicot webapps in favour of installed apps that can spy much more efectively

They allow VPN and DNS-based blockers, request interceptors in Safari (so-called Content Blockers) and are adding support for WebExtensions to Safari in next iOS release. Plus there are 3rd-party browsers with build-in content blockers, like Brave and Firefox Focus. Safari itself is doing clever stuff with Tracking Protection ( https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention/ ). All apps I run use SafariViewController for in-…

Request interceptors are simply subpar. I understand the motivation, which is prevent adblockers themselves from spying on you, but in practice I would prefer to be able to install uBlock origin which is excellent on desktop and Android.

The Safari WebView restriction means there is no browser choice.

I cannot put any trust in iOS supporting WebExtensions in a meaningful way, given their track record of undermining web technology - but hopefully I will be proven wrong.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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I guess we need a congressional bill that lets people sideload apps on their phone. It seems ridiculous to have to get to that level but apparently that’s the only way. We have some progress now on right to repair. Next up, right to use.

No. Just no... We need another PC revolution for phones. Not every problem has to be solved by force or coercion.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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post #118

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There really needs to be a third way … how are Linux smart phones looking? No hope of getting WhatsApp etc presumably but at the very least a fairly solid browser should be possible …

Work on PinePhones and Librem 5 is going well. There are still issues of course but I’ve been blown away by the community efforts to iron out the issues. You can get Linux Signal and you’d still need to have it connected to an android or iOS device too, but that would at least give you messaging. The other caveat being that there are still many apps that are not designed for mobile form factor, and while there is str…

> I’ve been blown away by the community efforts to iron out the issues.

What’s the best way to get involved?

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