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Goodbye, Fleets

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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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They did, like a month ago. You gotta pay for it though... https://ibb.co/S6WNLvt

wut da duck?

It's a feature like Gmail Undo Send. The tweet remains unposted until the edit window has been exited.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#222

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Those anxieties are driven by the fact that every week someone destroys their career or even life with a single Tweet. In the worst cases, people have been driven to suicide by the backlash to a Tweet of theirs. Unless you are an aspiring celebrity trying to build a career or get a book deal from your Twitter persona, the…

In typical Twitter fashion, all of the horror you describe its users would call "accountability".

But yes, when people are afraid to use their own name, auto-delete tweets, and do all of this for not getting in trouble for middle-of-the-road views, you know you're in an extreme place.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Jack really is just a blithering idiot. There are plenty of reasons you could give for not adding this feature, but that one, that's probably the worst.

Why though? It's bad enough when online news sites edit their articles and a later version carries some different information with no or little hint that it was edited.

I mean, yes, that is one good argument for not having an edit button.

But it is not the reason Jack gave.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#225

Maybe someone can correct me, but I don’t recall ever seeing a website fundamentally change itself or evolve and grow whereas I have seen time and time again something entirely new coming out and being the thing people use instead. If you compared Twitter today to Twitter’s first tweet, it’s the same thing. Nothing’s changed with the site itself; I can see people talk about how they ate a sandwich then and still toda…

Reddit started out as a text-based discussion forum for use on desktop and has slowly morphed into endless-scroll-of-images/gifs/streams on mobile.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#226

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

> Twitter is great when it comes to transparency

Are you kidding? This is an incredibly opaque and user-hostile company.

edit: I am one of the moderators of /r/Twitter on Reddit. Come look at my subreddit if you want a feel for where my opinion is being drawn from. This company is in absolutely no way transparent.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#227
Gee, who would have thought the culture on Twitter is experienced as hostile by some (ie all normal people).

Never once in the last years have I opened the app without closing it 10 mins max later in exasperation of disgust.

It really brings out the worst people, it brings out the worst in people as some of the worst people „bring out“ Twitter.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#228
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I wonder if there are technical issues here? It wouldn't be too surprising if "tweets are immutable" (and therefore safe to aggressively cache) is an assumption baked into a lot of their code.

It's not just technical. Jack doesn't want it. https://www.wired.com/story/jack-dorsey-wont-get-edit-tweet-... > Dorsey was unusually direct: “The answer is no,” he says. > “The reason there's no edit button [and] there hasn't been an edit button traditionally is we started as an SMS text messaging service," explains Dorsey. "So as you all know, when you send a text, you can’t really take it back. We wanted to preser…

But there is a delete button for tweets...

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#229

That's really too bad. I don't tweet much, maybe once a day, but I really liked using fleets, and lots of people told me they loved seeing them, in DM or @'ing: https://twitter.com/simonsarris/status/1415370626303504389 I want my timeline to be mostly thoughts and nice photography that people can go look at as they please, and I don't want to pollute it or waste follower's time with one-off stuff (like making pasta e…

What is a baseline for tweets per day per regular user? One tweet per day means 365 per year, it looks huge to some people.

Some "extremely online" people can tweet that much in a couple of days (I made software that measures it, to identify whom to mute or stop following altogether).

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

#230
> We built Fleets as a lower-pressure, ephemeral way for people to share their fleeting thoughts. We hoped Fleets would help more people feel comfortable joining the conversation on Twitter.

If anyone from twitter reads this, here's one thing that could get me to post more:

Give us pseudonyms.

Guarantee that you won't leak them to media or mobs.

I understand you'll have to givw them to the police sometimes but the police is far less scary for me than the mob.

While you are at it: Let me post to different channels or topics or something. Why should people who follow me because of programming have to suffer my gardening tweets and vice versa?

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