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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by bergheim »

peakaboo wrote: post #138
bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

Good post. I've given up on the tech community though. They don't care about what's right. If chrome is faster, they use chrome.

I agree (and of course I know of the Mozilla things).

I remember years ago when things began to really go off the rails. I saw a Nike commercial which for the first time did not say "nike.com", but: "facebook.com/Nike". Man I was bummed.

If companies like that have to resort to this, it's over.

Pity we couldn't (again, myself included) protect the free internet.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by schuyler2d »

joelthelion wrote: post #174
fleddr wrote: post #160

I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…

As a side note, I don't understand why nobody uses Firefox on Android. It's an excellent browser, has ublock which is fairly rare on mobile. Why not use it?

I still do for ideological reasons, but I used to recommend it -- now I can't really since their rewrite of it last year -- every single time I tab out or briefly switch apps it reloads the page: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/19291

I've lost days of my life waiting for these reloads. It's ashame because it used to reliably out-perform chrome on my phone.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by LAC-Tech »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #147
ninjahattori wrote: post #133

I use and love firefox. I feel sad when I see brave, edge and other new browsers chromium based taking a lead. Firefox by itself is an amazing browser but the company behind it lacks any kind of vision. Brave has its own search, a better startpage, an ad network. From onboarding to incentivising user, they are doing it all very well.

Chromium isn't out of choice it's out of necessity. Unfortunately the newest generation of engineers just see no point in even testing anything but Chrome on a MacBook. This drives me up the wall as someone who's first job required writing CSS that could work in IE6, IE7, Safari, FireFox and Opera and even sometimes IE5.5. To hear devs paid way more than I was back then tell me "can't we just tell them to install Chr…

Firefoxes share peaked at around 30% in 2010.

It's now closer to 3%.

The big 3 are now Chrome, Edge, and Safari. Firefox is no longer a major browser, and hasn't been for some time.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by daveguy »

peakaboo wrote: post #138
bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

Good post. I've given up on the tech community though. They don't care about what's right. If chrome is faster, they use chrome.

It's not a matter of it being faster for me. It's a matter of it being more stable. I used Firefox for years, but when my extensions started breaking with FF updates I switched. I tried again recently, but now it's the extensions.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by spartanatreyu »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #209
joelthelion wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a side note, I don't understand why nobody uses Firefox on Android. It's an excellent browser, has ublock which is fairly rare on mobile. Why not use it?

I'm wondering as well. Back when I used Android, I did use FF all the time, with uBO saving big time on traffic. Now on the iPhone I use Safari because I think it has power efficiency nailed, but maybe I should use FF for iOS instead?

Safari is the only browser on iOS. Apple doesn't allow other browsers on their app store. It's in their developer agreement.

What you see as browsers on iOS are actually browser skins running around a Safari based webview.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by mpgarate »

joelthelion wrote: post #174
fleddr wrote: post #160

I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…

As a side note, I don't understand why nobody uses Firefox on Android. It's an excellent browser, has ublock which is fairly rare on mobile. Why not use it?

I used to use Firefox on Android but had to stop because of this issue. Too many times filling out a form, grabbing a password from a password manager, and returning to find the form blanked. When it's resolved I'll go back and try again.

https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/12731

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Shorel »

ducktective wrote: post #14
btgeekboy wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a terrible protocol not built for the modern internet. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a URL containing “ftp” that isn’t prefixed by http://

Lots of university file dumps are served on FTP...

I use FileZilla anytime I need to access FTP.

It somehow feels wrong to use a web browser for this.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by astrange »

pseudalopex wrote: post #195
astrange wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no reason to dig up every opinion on Earth just so you can maintain neutrality between all of them. Brendan Eich is surprisingly un-cancelled for a guy who thinks his employees shouldn't be able to visit their spouses dying in hospitals[1]. He's literally still around. [1] Which happened a lot during the AIDS pandemic and was essentially the purpose of the gay marriage campaign. It was actually relatively cul…

Eich would tell you he supported civil unions.

Too bad he contributed to a campaign that wasn't for them then.

And of course, CA did introduce something like "marriage with a different name" afterwards, but it didn't seem like the Prop 8 defenders liked that either, and the courts still found it unconstitutional.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Pokepokalypse »

fleddr wrote: post #160

I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…

Ironically: Google and Apple (via mobile) are doing to Firefox what Microsoft failed to do. Kill it with an integrated browser.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by dralley »

411111111111111 wrote: post #129
bergheim wrote: post #122

I think Firefox news is what I comment most on here. I don't know why. Well I guess I do. Web browsers, javascript etc is front and center here - which somewhat means the digital world. All my friends use Chrome, and think I'm weird. I think _they_ are. They care about human rights, at least I think they do. But, having Google, an ad company, dictate how our window to the digital world looks like, is now _way worse_…

Just remember that Mozilla gets over 90% of its revenue from Google.

Just remember that HN loves to criticize every external revenue source they have. Pocket, Mozilla VPN, etc. "why don't they just focus on the browser".
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