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> There's not much firms can do to hold onto employees Well, they could always offer more money. Sometimes I crack myself up.

of course they can, and facing a labor shortage they eventually will, but those changes take time. businesses compete for workers and customers in a market, and the market has to change. it has a lot of inertia.

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#222

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I guess we have different social circles, but I know many people who have done this and none of them are "trust fund crowd". Have done it myself for multiple half-year-or-so periods as well. Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. I spent 3 months as a research assistant in Australia and used savings from that period to travel in South-East Asia and South America for 6 months or so. Shortly after graduating, havin…

> Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. Yeah, for Americans it means buying health insurance which is quite a lot more expensive than what you get from your employer.

You can get travel insurance for extended trips. I'm American and I've taken multiple 6-month trips abroad (usually after quitting a job). Backpacking just isn't part of the American culture.

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

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post #207

I can tell you all the market for devs is white hot at the moment. I mean it was never cold, but right now seems to be insane. If the work-from-home thing has given you thoughts about what you like, now is the time to go. I see very few firms insisting on onsite work though, having interviewed with quite a few over the last few weeks. Even guys that I know would rather have people in the office and would pay them ver…

Why would it be white hot right now though? I don’t think software would be particularly affected by COVID negatively or positively.

The forced year of remote has led to both a lot of companies opening up permanent remote work, and a lot of people to change jobs (because their current company doesn't support them remotely well, or because without the social component normalizing their work they've come to question it more). Further, with just the economy reopening, a lot of businesses are opening headcount that they've been sitting on the past year, reluctant to hire due to COVID uncertainties. Taken together, there is a lot of churn. There's a lot of opportunity, but also a lot of competition for roles.

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Money gotta money. At least crypto is a slightly-less-obnoxious industry than ads and tracking...

> At least crypto is a slightly-less-obnoxious industry than ads and tracking And way more environmentally destructive than countless other things.

Maybe we quantity the privacy and emotional manipulation/destruction of the ad industry?

If we want to talk energy, maybe we look at what mindless streaming services consume?

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

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post #73

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What do you mean by “tools”? Generally I think of “tools” as anything that assists you in building, deploying, or operating a (production) service, but not the service itself. For my definition, the firebase CLI is a tool, but Google Cloud Firestore (a no-SQL data store) is not. At the places you talked to, was everything service-y left to a separate back-end/infra team?

By tools I don’t mean your OS or IDE. I mean those things so you don’t have to write code beyond a couple of figurations or text content.

Can you give examples. I'm not clear on what you mean

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess we have different social circles, but I know many people who have done this and none of them are "trust fund crowd". Have done it myself for multiple half-year-or-so periods as well. Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. I spent 3 months as a research assistant in Australia and used savings from that period to travel in South-East Asia and South America for 6 months or so. Shortly after graduating, havin…

> Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. Yeah, for Americans it means buying health insurance which is quite a lot more expensive than what you get from your employer.

You can continue your employer insurance for 18 months. But, as you say, it's more out of your pocket because your employer is now no longer subsidizing it.

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess we have different social circles, but I know many people who have done this and none of them are "trust fund crowd". Have done it myself for multiple half-year-or-so periods as well. Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. I spent 3 months as a research assistant in Australia and used savings from that period to travel in South-East Asia and South America for 6 months or so. Shortly after graduating, havin…

> Maybe it's more of a European thing to do. Yeah, for Americans it means buying health insurance which is quite a lot more expensive than what you get from your employer.

If you aren’t earning an income you can get free healthcare

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

#228
But human resources may be able to retain some workers by offering as much flexibility as possible, says Cathy Moy, chief people officer at BDO USA, a financial services company.

It's not just flexibility or WFH. For many people it's about pay, policies, management, and a host of other issues, many of them well known but never addressed. Good luck to those firms who think the old HR playbook - making sympathetic noises while doing nothing about these other issues - will suffice.

Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

#229
post #127

I can tell you all the market for devs is white hot at the moment. I mean it was never cold, but right now seems to be insane. If the work-from-home thing has given you thoughts about what you like, now is the time to go. I see very few firms insisting on onsite work though, having interviewed with quite a few over the last few weeks. Even guys that I know would rather have people in the office and would pay them ver…

This. The WeWorkRemotely posting silicon valley type companies are getting flooded and are quite picky currently. But once you apply to a few jobs elsewhere that have recruiters, you get flooded with small to medium size companies looking for devs. And the market is so hot that companies which previously had longer interview processes are condensing down to 1-2 interviews, because if they take any longer all their ap…

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Re: “Great resignation” wave coming for companies

#230

Listen, I am completely on board with giving employees the right to choose the remote situation - but don't be surprised when you're competing against people from all over the globe, who will probably take a lower salary than you, who probably aren't entitled as you, and will bite at the opportunity. Furthermore, what are employers meant to do with their workplaces when employees are half-in, half-out with the office…

> don't be surprised when you're competing against people from all over the globe, who will probably take a lower salary than you, who probably aren't entitled as you, and will bite at the opportunity.

This competition mostly doesn't exist.

The language barrier is too great, and working across time zones is something that most companies are horrible at, to say nothing of the legal/regulatory/jurisdictional challenges.

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