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that link doesn't work: Error establishing a database connection
You can access the archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210506194445/https://vivaldi.c... The short version is: they get money from things like search engine deals, which guide Vivaldi users to third-party services.
Vivaldi 4.0
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FF is my daily driver (since Quantum in '17) but I've found it really just isn't holding up these days: • Profiling functions between Chrome/FF reveals that Chrome is frequently considerably faster (usually 60%+) • During WebGL work I'll often hit blue screens around memory management (this seems to be a relatively recent development) • Similarly, trying to profile a WebRTC application with video feeds will consisten…
If WebGL and WebRTC are causing bluescreens, that is probably a GPU driver bug (though I realize that users don't care whose fault a crash is). If you have steps to reproduce, even if not 100% reliable, you can file a Firefox bug in Bugzilla. Mozilla has contacts at Microsoft and can pass along the bug.
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#223It's great there are alternative browsers but being closed source and requiring a phone number is worse than Chrome.
Require a phone number?
Last line on the page: "Before using Vivaldi Webmail and the blogging platform, we’ll ask you to verify your phone number. That’s it."
Re: Vivaldi 4.0
#224I switched to Vivaldi from Chrome earlier this year as I was uncomfortable with the level of Google integration in that browser. Vivaldi is based on Chromium and has lots of improvements over Chrome, like gestures out of the box, side panels, lots of clear options. And Chrome extensions work perfectly. I've had no issues so far. The complexity of managing a browser engine that does what everyone expects requires humo…
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Just to clarify in case someone's wondering, a browser named Opera still exists and gets updated now, but neither the people behind it nor the underlying technology are the same as in the old Opera this post is referring to. As an old-time classic Opera user since version 5 or so, I do use the current Opera because I find it somewhat better than Chrome (it has more built-in stuff, including mouse gestures, Whatsapp/T…
Vivaldi is exactly as slow or fast as any Chromium-based browser. A this point I've surrendered to the notion of the web never getting faster, but just eating away any efficiency gains in computing. I like Vivaldi for the feature set. It's rich enough for the regular power-user, but the presentation is straightforward enough that you don't feel like you need to pimp your browser like you would Emacs. I felt home with…
That is not my experience at all. I tried a few different versions over the years (including the beta with the mail client, but not yet this 4.0) and the UI always feels ... slow, and not quite snappy enough to be comfterable. It's really hard to describe this and I'm not the kind of person who quickly gets annoyed by this sort of thing, but for me personally it's too much and every time I tried it it was annoying enough to give up after a day or two. It's like using some remote connection with X or vnc (okay, maybe not quite that bad, but definitely reminiscent of that).
In comparison, Chromium or Firefox doesn't have this at all on the same computer.
Maybe it's a Linux thing; I don't know. I can imagine it's not the highest priority for them. A lot of it seems in the UI layer (and not the rendering layer), which is vastly different from Chromium. I hope they will improve this at some point (and I'll try out this version, too) because outside of this Vivaldi looks pretty neat.
I still miss Opera Presto :-(
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I still use Opera 12, by the way. Works fine for about 75% of the web. For the remaining, I use Vivaldi!
Not my experience. I use it out of nostalgia, but only for select sites. Many sites with modern SSL config won't load. Click a random link that lands you on a js-heavy site and the browser will stutter or often crash. Which is impressive because back in the day opera once had the fastest js engine by a mile. Goes to show how far V8 has come. But browsing traditional sites that just have a little bit of js and are mos…
And I've got a keyboard shortcut to open the current site in Vivaldi as a fallback.
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I disagree. Opera mini allowed me to browse the web almost normally (I was using a Nokia E65) and I never really understood why I regularly see people saying the iPhone brought internet to smartphones or something of the sort.
I also used Opera on my old Symbian phone. Probably the number of iPhones after two or three years was larger than the number of mobile devices that people actually used to browse the web before the iPhone. Nevertheless where I live (Italy) the number of Android devices were always greater than the number of iPhones. I'm thinking about the Galaxy S and S2 in the very early 2010s and the other flagship phones of the d…
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Vivaldi is exactly as slow or fast as any Chromium-based browser. A this point I've surrendered to the notion of the web never getting faster, but just eating away any efficiency gains in computing. I like Vivaldi for the feature set. It's rich enough for the regular power-user, but the presentation is straightforward enough that you don't feel like you need to pimp your browser like you would Emacs. I felt home with…
Fullscreen takes ~1 second in Vivaldi. Closing a Tab takes 300-1000ms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCA2qIIG1M
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Kind of off topic, but what do you mean by chrome-ification of the web?
Chrome is taking over the web and a ton of features start/are only in Chrome. Youtube had a "bug" which made it 2x slower in Firefox, for example.