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China lands rover on Mars
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#222What I find very exciting and something that is totally lacking from any news articles and discussions I have seen outside space-geek circles is that China is actually very much open to cooperate with other agencies. The China Russia plan of a base on the moon is open to partners whom would like to join: International Lunar Research Station. https://spacenews.com/china-russia-open-moon-base-project-to...
They are open as this is a obvious honey pot to spy and copy other countries technologies without spending money on R&D.
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#223It seems pretty silly to get all up in arms about copying other peoples' stuff. That's how humanity has innovated throughout the ages: Copy what works and innovate on top of it. None of our inventions arise from a vacuum. Cars are still as wide as Roman chariots for good reason. Power transfer uses the same base principles as were in play during the dawn of steam engines and before. Energy conversion has been an iter…
> Crying "No fair! You stole it!" sounds more like a petulant child than anything else. It's also exactly what made nasa in the first place, with America stealing much of rocket science from the Germans in the wake of WW2.
I was just telling my wife about this yesterday and how Wernher von Braun basically saved the US rocket program; or, at least, it was having major difficulties before, and major successes after he joined up.
And, in addition, the Germans in the 1930s got a lot of good information from Robert H. Goddard, the inventor who built the first liquid-fueled rocket; Werner von Braun said, about him, "His rockets ... may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles." There was a large exchange of information in most areas of physics between very illustrious German and American physicists.
I think that having more people doing more science enriches everyone. Without American and German scientists working sharing information, it would have taken a lot longer to have the space technology that we currently do.
That is true even when two countries have political tension, as Germany and America had in the 1930s. China may have political rivalry with America, but science should take a lead in exchanging ideas, learning from each other, and developing new ideas that will enrich all of humanity.
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#224China Daily has a nice animation of the landing process.[1] So far, though, no live video. [1] http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202105/15/WS609f18aaa31024...
Ah, someone copied our homework again :) I hope that more things on Mars are a net positive anyway, regardless the nation.
Looks like its improved not needing the crane contraption and it seemed to hover for some time deciding exactly where to land.
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#225It's impressive how far China has come in just 2 decades. How significant is this achievement space technology wise? I still remember the first rover on Mars and it was a really big deal in my eyes back then.
that is what happen when you don't have a corrupt government, you reach new ages every decades rather than centuries
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#226I love how they announced it to the world on Twitter, while regular Chinese citizen has no access to the Twitter (not the normal way at least)
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#227I love how they announced it to the world on Twitter, while regular Chinese citizen has no access to the Twitter (not the normal way at least)
Don’t worry they announced on WeChat as well.
Kind of how NASA post stuff on WeChat even though most Americans don’t use it... wasn’t it also banned under trump?
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not downplaying the achievements as they just achieved something the Soviet and Russian programs could not even at the height of their powers during the space race. But there are plenty of countries most notably Russia that have allowed China to purchase military/dual use technologies. Hardware such as advanced fighter jets, missile and rocket technology, and there’s also the huge numbers of tertiary education studen…
Did the Soviets make any major attempt for Mars? I thought that after the moon, they were mostly focused on Venus during the space race. Their ~28 Venus missions were no joke, with up to 5300 kg payloads for lander + orbiter, comparable to the Zhurong lander + orbiter payload of 5000 kg. Perhaps someone more skilled at rocket science than me can comment on the relative difficulty of moving mass to Mars vs Venus. From…
Soviet Union sent probs on Mars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_3
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You probably should have read Dang's pinned comment at the top.
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#230This is so cool, imagine it would meet Perseverance and the droids would engage in some battle friendly cooperation! Q: Are the landing sites even remotely close to each other? Q: Had any of sides incorporated this somehow unexpected counterpart into their master programs? Can they update the programs at all? Edit: grammar
Here is the footage we were able to recover from the incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIx0a1vcYPc "Sci-Fi Short Film “Wire Cutters" | DUST"