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Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by yid »

daralthus wrote: post #196
yid wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Social networking, unlike skype or email, requires low cognitive load--you come to hang out on your own terms. While group video chat is a convenient feature when you need it, it's not going to fundamentally change the game.

I disagree. You go to a hang out when you feel about socializing. You never get bored in a group chat, and the youtube integration just makes it much better. Just look at turntable.fm I miss this kind of chatting from facebook so much. (ok there is something like this with groups. I read somewhere that is the second popular on the site, right after photo sharing.)

I suppose we're both going on anecdotal evidence, and the actual usage of social networks is probably diverse enough to accommodate both our views.

Re: Google Reveals Its Stealth Social Project, Google+

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Post by daralthus »

cryptoz wrote: post #2

From plus.google.com: > Google+ is in limited Field Trial Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people. WHY?! WHY are they doing this again? They did this with Wave. Google, you cannot launch a social network while explicitly…

I am curious what price would an invite hit on ebay.

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Post by monjaro »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #80
rapind wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Circles seem really well thought out. I also like the hangouts idea, especially auto-switching focus based on speaker volume, which is again similar to offline interactions.

Circles is not well thought out if the demo is accurate in only allowing one circle per friend.

There is no such restriction.

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

joebadmo wrote: post #219
jokermatt999 wrote: post #210

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In Google Reader, comments on items are visible to everyone that can see the item. Edit: this is meant merely to inform, not judge how it is or should be.

Right, but that still leaves me not having any idea who can see my comments. Which is fine in Google Reader because I don't expect any level of privacy there, but in Google+, esp. after having explicitly set up Circles, I might expect some level of privacy which doesn't include people outside of the Circle I'm commenting in being able to see my comments. With a "Place" metaphor, if you have a private place, nothing w…

If it works like advertised only people in your circle can see the comment. Which leads to a weird experience for the commenter. To them they're essentially talking to just you while you're talking to your own circle. I'd be interesting in seeing a breakdown on how the circles intertwine. For example perhaps you have Jill in your coworkers circle and I have her in my friends circle. So presumable our communications are separate. But what if I move her to my coworkers circle and you're also in my coworkers circle? Are the names of our individual circles significant?

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Post by barista »

ianb wrote: post #214
nextparadigms wrote: post #197

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"Circles? Actually I think that many people like the idea of their posts are being read by as many people as possible and not just the ones with similar interests." I totally disagree with that. Facebook sorely lacks such a feature, and the lack of it has led to "spammy" messages from so called "friends" you barely even know, or care about in your list. Google+ seems to solve a lot of issues with Facebook. And I thin…

Don't you just hide friends with consistently boring messages? I do, and people I know do. It's a big stick, compared to some more subtle faceting, but it mostly works fine, while putting some pressure on the reader to accept a certain amount of tedium in those people I still want to listen to. There's also event spam, but that one category you can filter out separately (i.e., "ignore events from person X").

Facebook already has a conceprt of groups. I frequently share my updates/pictures with only to select set of groups. It's just that it is a bit hard to use it. Nothing that facebook can't fix. Don't know what is so great about this.

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Post by mrspandex »

nextparadigms wrote: post #197
kristiandupont wrote: post #96

This is exciting and all -- and much as I would love to see a serious competitor to Facebook, I still don't know how I would convince any of my non-techie friends that they should switch to this. Circles? Actually I think that many people like the idea of their posts are being read by as many people as possible and not just the ones with similar interests. Although it looks like a big discussion group, the news feed…

"Circles? Actually I think that many people like the idea of their posts are being read by as many people as possible and not just the ones with similar interests." I totally disagree with that. Facebook sorely lacks such a feature, and the lack of it has led to "spammy" messages from so called "friends" you barely even know, or care about in your list. Google+ seems to solve a lot of issues with Facebook. And I thin…

Although the feature is not as advanced as circles, you can make wall posts on Facebook visible to only certain groups of friends. Google+ forces you to pick a circle (or everyone), rather than just defaulting to everyone.

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Post by nikolaplejic »

icebraining wrote: post #85
nostromo wrote: post #26

What I'd like to know is if I can use Facebook Connect to port my graph over (doubt Facebook would allow this) -- or if this means starting from scratch yet again.

Well, Facebook does allow you to download your profile[1], so Google could just write an importer for that. [1]: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/10/07/1250242/Facebook-Imp...

Last time I checked, you could only see the names of your friends in Facebook's profile export archive -- there were no metadata whatsoever (e.g. IDs or profile links). I don't think names themselves are enough to port your social graph.

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Post by fedd »

fedd wrote: post #32

too complex to use may affect usage negatively. too many features is not always good. trying to mimic real live brings the complexities of real life to the web. check this: "With Hangouts, the unplanned meet-up comes to the web for the first time. Let specific buddies (or entire circles) know you’re hanging out and then see who drops by for a face-to-face-to-face chat. Until teleportation arrives, it’s the next best…

comments make sense, but then i think it'll be a bit complex to admin those circles. complex for general public, not us of course
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