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Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by cable2600 »

cyberpunk wrote: post #24

Ahahahaha. I remember (vaguely) pinging AOL's irc servers with hays cmdset commands and as a result my parents getting a letter to the effect that I was a computer criminal and we were on some 'blacklist' forever, fortunately this apparently blacklist didn't seem to be shared between ISPs so I was back causing chaos within days >_ And now here I am, mid thirties, children, and I wonder if I would let my kid play DOOM…

I let my son play Doom with The Simpsons mod so it wasn't that scary. He was Homer Simpson fighting clones of his neighbors. I also taught him how to build PCs and use Windows 98 at that time.

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Post by spentu »

Now this brings back some memories. I remember finding this when I was still a teenager and found it funny. I cannot really remember if I thought that this was legit, even it looks like a joke now. It could have been written by an adult, when looking from teenagers point of view. After all, adults had some stupid rules.

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Post by anm89 »

drewzero1 wrote: post #202
01000010x wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Linyos Torovoltos” gives a pretty solid clue it was a satirical article :’)

Not necessarily. It seems like the kind of misspelling/misunderstanding of a foreign name my parents may have had. They were especially suspicious of anything that sounded remotely Soviet in origin (like Linyus, but Torovoltos is Greek to me). When I learned to buy things online (with my own money) and started ordering gadgets from China my mom was worried the mail carrier would think I was a communist.

This also struck me as plausible. Many European names have default patterns for being presented by speakers of other European languages. This just looked like the Greek version of his name to me.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by dragonsky67 »

kaybe wrote: post #123
mjburgess wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exposure builds resilience. All shielding does is turn people into hysterics who cannot see through the artifice, and assume everyone is duped by it into being murderous zombies.

I have to say, as a kid, all these games and movies were much more harmless than the news. The news had actual blood on the streets, from real people who had actually died there, real violence, real panic, real bombs and real war. If you shut off the TV, it does not go away, it's taking place somewhere out there, in the real world. A game is a joke in comparison.

This is a brilliant observation. As a 50+ "adult" I avoid the news media. My parents used to sit and watch the news with us, I would never do that today. It's not that the world is a worse place these days (It's actually safer), just that the media thrives by presenting all the bad in the worst possible way.

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Post by Blammar »

joejerryronnie wrote: post #111
YesThatTom2 wrote: post #7

The Linux being an illegal operating system is only a slight exaggeration of the FUD being put out by Microsoft at the time. Any time Microsoft publicly talks about their love and support of Linux, someone in the room should point out their multi-pronged, multi-year, highly-funded, campaign to poison the well.

I always thought it ironic that Linux killed Sun rather than Microsoft.

Ex-Sun employee here. I'd be interested in your reasons for that statement.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by atoav »

bradjohnson wrote: post #91
redleader55 wrote: post #66

In an age of "post-truth", out of control "political correctness" and all the other daemons, it's hard to read this and even realise it is supposed to be satire.

Please don't hijack the conversation to whinge about political correctness.

The internet today is unarguably much less innocent place than it has beennin these times. I don't think it is off topic to reflect on the changes in culture that happened since then.

With the masses the internet (like every medium before it) became much more propagandistic and propaganda is the art of supplying people with stories they want to be true, because they express a big lie they tell themselves about their lives. This wasn't different, when the Nazis gave people the Volksempfänger and Germans went to the cinemas to look at the newest reels of Wochenschau and every story told them how they (and they alone) are special people and others (jews, roma, sinti, gays, communists, ...) were to blame for all that was wrong.

I don't see why it should be improper or forbidden to reflect on the cultural changes within the internet in a post about an episode about its past — other than political agenda yet again.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

cyberpunk wrote: post #183
ldoughty wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My own plan: shield them until they are old enough to understand the concepts of trust and respect.. then pull back the safety net, but maintain quiet vigilance (like montoring (read only) the dns queries or system logs, and maybe keep access time window restrictions). If that really want questionable content, it will be cat and mouse game. Build trust and respect... Give them enough rope to hang themselves... Occasi…

That’s one thing I decided already not to do is spy on them. I could easily view his entire online life and sure maybe it would protect him somehow if he was getting into some really dark porn or talking to some pedophile or something, but it’s such a massive invasion of privacy I think I could never forgive myself and the justification is bullshit. There are no shortcuts to good parenting, spying on your kids traffi…

I guess one approach would be to tell them that you will be able to see their traffic. Even show them that servers have logs etc. After a time, show them how to use computers more privately, and tell them when you stop keeping logs.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by kfajdsl »

cyberpunk wrote: post #24

Ahahahaha. I remember (vaguely) pinging AOL's irc servers with hays cmdset commands and as a result my parents getting a letter to the effect that I was a computer criminal and we were on some 'blacklist' forever, fortunately this apparently blacklist didn't seem to be shared between ISPs so I was back causing chaos within days >_ And now here I am, mid thirties, children, and I wonder if I would let my kid play DOOM…

If it makes you feel any better, I'm young enough to have grown up playing Halo: Reach, Minecraft, and Battlefield 3, and I mostly turned out fine so far, I think.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by smabie »

busymom0 wrote: post #169

> If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never s…

Yep. AMD processor? Straight to jail.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by p1necone »

exciteabletom wrote: post #205
p1necone wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Userbenchmark is so bizarre. I really want to know who's running it and what their motives are for being so blatantly disingenuous. The best theory I've got is that the owners were shorting AMD stock before it became obvious that they were serious competition again, and now they're using their reach to spread as much FUD as possible to claw some of their money back. But they come off as such idiotic hacks, I'm not su…

What's even stranger is that they were actually favourable to 1st gen Ryzen processors when they came out. On their 1800x review[0] they call it: "A very welcome shake-up of the CPU market" Then they did a complete 180 when AMD actually shook up the CPU market. Perhaps the site's owner changed? There's a great video about the site here for those who are curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQSBj2LKkWg 0: https://…

Wealthy investor secretly buying out userbenchmark to spread FUD is an even juicier conspiracy theory...
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