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mc32 wrote: post #4
efnx wrote: post #2

So this was deployed in 2014 and we’re just connecting all the dots now? It really makes you wonder what’s being deployed at the moment. The fact that they can determine all this from some binary is amazing. Security researchers really are techno-archaeologists.

I recall how when we had North Korean hacking activities and official attributions people would say, but how do we know it was them and how do we know the government isn’t making things up? But when someone accuses the US we never add any salt. Not that I don’t think it’s false, it’s just that the lack of consistent skepticism is interesting.

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Post by jessaustin »

Hammershaft wrote: post #53
RedComet wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its probably because the US government is the single greatest force for evil in the world right now.

I think this strays from the original topic but why do you believe that? What makes you think the US is more evil then say, North Korea, China, or Russia?

There are several criteria by which one might say that, and I'll offer one example. The evil done by Russians, Chinese, and Koreans has mostly been done to other Russians, Chinese, and Koreans. (There are exceptions, e.g. China's treatment of Vietnam, but that rather underscores the point I'm making.) USA, on the other hand, in addition to its centuries-long record of brutal colonialism and racial apartheid in North America, has a similar record of brutality throughout Latin America, Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. It would not be irrational to consider the global export of violence to be worse than its domestic use.

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Post by ddalex »

dilyevsky wrote: post #170
sturza wrote: post #144

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Did you take occam’s razor into account? Why is this likely?

The timing is very sus given recent and ongoing spy mania in eastern europe (if you’ve been following)

The thing in EastEurope is not intelligence-based, its' political.

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Post by jessaustin »

INTPenis wrote: post #193
hilyen wrote: post #192

We need to end all secret gov agencies. They are out of control & happily stomping out liberties without discretion.

Sure, as soon as we end all jealousy and suspicion in the human race. Glhf

Is there any reason to believe that unsupervised hidden criminals in the public employ have ever done anything to decrease or ameliorate "jealousy and suspicion"? To the contrary, one finds they have inspired massive amounts of both.

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Post by mike_d »

freeflight wrote: post #195
wait_a_minute wrote: post #54

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Because the entire goal is to promote skepticism about the USA while remaining as mum as possible on Russia and China. In the case of Russia, it’s not a secret that they try to disrupt and divide the states via internal conflicts so they can take over if we decline because of it. Here is just one example: https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-backed-facebook-account... We also know that hundreds of thousands of foreig…

> Here is just one example: Here's an example that in major parts contributed to a civil war going on to this day: The existence of a US military operation that manipulates social media trough sock-puppet accounts [0] was revealed around the same time Syrians were riled up to regime change trough.. social media [1]. Said social media presence kept announcing "Days of Rage" protests in Syria which initially no Syrian…

> How many domestic sponsored accounts have been banned?

The Smith–Mundt Act makes it illegal to distribute propaganda where it may be consumed by a primarily US audience.

Also from just a practical investment perspective, creating a bunch of sock puppets on Reddit to try and influence the opinion of Putin doesn't make sense. r/Russia for example only has 150k subscribers and most of the posts are in English.

You would need to ask WeChat, VK, Weibo, Douyin, and OK for transparency reports on how many state-sponsored accounts they have terminated.

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Post by willcipriano »

mandmandam wrote: post #166
willcipriano wrote: post #111

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries Folks inside the CIA knew that the yellow cake uranium was a lie and at best, did not make any of this knowledge public as the justification for war was coming together. That silence resulted in the loss of at least one hundred and fifty thousand human beings needlessly and a war that has lasted decades.

>That silence resulted in the loss of at least one hundred and fifty thousand human beings needlessly Just gonna point out that non-Americans are human beings as well, and millions have died - directly as a result of this silence. The fact that Biden played a key part in enforcing this silence at various stages is particularly galling, and it's beyond fucked-up that he isn't held to account for it.

>Just gonna point out that non-Americans are human beings as well, and millions have died - directly as a result of this silence.

150k is the most conservative estimate I could find for Iraq. US and Iraqi deaths included. Some estimates are in the millions but I try to be as generous as possible to the other side of a argument I am making.

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Post by lioeters »

caeril wrote: post #200
boston_clone wrote: post #70

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Didn't some PRISM documents show that Google's internal use of TLS 1.2 was blocking a more widespread collection of data? I'll see if I can find the slide that articulated the issue.

That was part of it. The other part was "Do what we tell you, or you'll be Joe Nacchioed" In a 2013 interview, Marissa Meyer made it abundantly clear this is why Yahoo "voluntarily" joined PRISM. One can assume the rest were similarly influenced.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio
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