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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

Arcuru wrote: post #197
causality0 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The median tenure of a Google employee is 1.1 years.

I'm fairly sure that these very low numbers for median tenure (not just for Google but the other tech companies as well) are a result of the huge percentage of new hires. That number does not mean that the average Google employee will only be at the company for 1.1 years. e.g. if nobody ever leaves the company, but you always double the number of employees every year by very aggressive hiring, the average tenure acco…

I don't think Google's hiring is increasing fast enough to explain the low rate. It looks like they increased about 10% from 2019 to 2020.

However, it's also unclear exactly how 1.1 number is calculated. It looks like it comes from PayScale, which doesn't give, as far as I can tell, a methodology:

Is that the median amount of time that all current employees have had with the company so far?

Or is it the median of all of the employees that used to work there & moved on, which would exclude people that have continued to work there?

Or is it some type of survival analysis that takes such factors into account?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by filoleg »

moate wrote: post #69
moksly wrote: post #41

It’s interesting to see how Moot gets the blame for the all the things that happened after he sold off 4chan. Especially when you consider how anonymous and the occupy movements were all the rage among woke leftists a few years back, and they originated from 4chan.

1- who the hell is "Moot"? 2- Back in the moot-run days of 4chan, it really was a completely different world. All the weird meme-culture we have now started there. /b/ was both the greatest and worst thing simultaneously. You had literal nazis and neckbeards working together to dox pedos. It was just a completely different place from what it's become all these years later.

Since your (1) went unanswered, Moot is Chris Poole's online handle (on 4chan specifically, which is somewhat special, given that users on 4chan usually post anonymously) that he was mostly known by before becoming a semi-celebrity.

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pcbro141 wrote: post #152
urthebiased1 wrote: post #145

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You know there's plenty of antisemitism around the world, especially in places like Iran, which officially denies the Holocaust, that isn't coming from a "white supremacist" place, especially not in the context of American white supremacy. Considering that we know for a fact that you don't know the ages, genders, nationality, or races of the people with these beliefs, and can only see their beliefs posted anonymously…

White males make up a disproportionate amount of white nationalists compared to the total population (obviously...?), and white nationalism is disproportionately represented on that board. Thus I suspect that white males make up a disproportionate amount of posters on /pol/. I'm sure there are other races posting racist things there as well, but I said disproportionately young white males tend to post white nationali…

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Post by jrsj »

illiilliiililil wrote: post #210
jrsj wrote: post #183

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There is an argument being made by many on the right that the overdose was his actual cause of death because he spoke of not being able to breath etc before he was restrained & had a large amount of fentanyl in his system. That being said, the initial autopsy said this was only one factor and most people with this view are misreading that autopsy, which still stated the primary cause of death was compression of the n…

Why couldn't he breathe in the back of the car?

I’m in no way a medical expert but probably the fentanyl, or a combination of that & panic.

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pcbro141 wrote: post #181
vorpalhex wrote: post #176

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Subcultures have shibboleths. In the same way WallStreetBets wasn't making fun of the mentally handicapped, it would be dangerous to take any chan at face value. Shibboleths exist to exclude people outside the subculture stereotype - and a good way of doing that is to be offensive. Some subcultures desire to remain as subcultures. Part of why shibboleths work is because we as a species tend to stop engaging rationall…

> The 4chan shibboleth attacks everyone I see plenty of posts attacking and calling for the killing and complete extermination of non-Whites, Jews, homosexuals, and women all over the place but 0 posts attacking straight white males for being straight white males. Gee, I wonder why that is? I really wonder who is posting all these white nationalist talking points, it's truly a mystery. Could be anyone.

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Post by ineedasername »

pcbro141 wrote: post #157
okareaman wrote: post #77

I've spent a fair amount of time on 4chan/pol/ for over a decade and my opinion is moot is a decent guy who sold it after he tried to reign in GamerGate and was loudly criticized on the site for it. I don't think Google would have hired him if it weren't for that redeeming quality. I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. It's anonymous so people around the world can express themsel…

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

I disagree: That is an extremely diverse selection of hatred, with the occasional inane entry.

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Post by [deleted] »

iitqkzbjak wrote: post #170
pcbro141 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

Racism, gore, pedos, endless endless pornography... Yet when people mention that they visit 4chan, they talk about the 'very clever people posting there'. It's like mentioning that you regularly go paddling in your local river in order to collect tiny nuggets of gold, without mentioning that your local river is a flow of excrement, nuclear waste, and malignant psychopaths.

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Post by pcbro141 »

seriousquestion wrote: post #207
pcbro141 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

They are agitators and trolls, and you took the bait.

The young white supremacists being radicalized online are taking the bait.

The bait is this silly narrative that the reason they talk in depth and at length everyday about exterminating non-Whites is because it's elaborate "trolling" to own the libs, until they start sprinkling in enough "justification" and repetition to radicalize you into becoming a white supremacists.

Sadly many young men are taking the bait and becoming radicalized online.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by vorpalhex »

pcbro141 wrote: post #219
vorpalhex wrote: post #208

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People don't self identify as "Straight White Male", it's not really a good insult base. You want to insult their country of origin (Ireland, Canada), their hobbies (anime, weightlifting, smoking pot) or their inability to get laid. "White people have poor taste in food!" isn't very punchy, is it?

"British people have shitty food can't get laid" is kinda different from "all k*kes and ni**rs need to legit be exterminated", isn't it? They tell jokes about white ethnicities, but don't speak unironically, constantly, and at length about why whites should be racially exterminated like they do towards non-Whites, Jews, Muslims.

You aren't going to hear "British people have shitty food and can't get laid" because it's not really insulting.

That other stuff? That got you mad. You've got multiple threads running about how terrible it is - and there's a good chance you don't even identify as one of those groups.

But let's assume for a moment that 4chan really is concentrated evil. You do realize you are basically advertising for them right now?

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Post by dls2016 »

causality0 wrote: post #175
hourislate wrote: post #129

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I have found I can spend hours on 4chins reading some of the most interesting stuff on the Internet. It takes some work and time but there is gold there. There are some scary smart/genius anons posting.

Indeed. /pol/'s main value is entertainment at the sheer level of batshit insanity but the number of times they've either been startlingly prescient or else had serious insider knowledge is significant. I've seen things there that took days to hit CNN. For example, claims about Peter Bright's pedophilic exploits hit /pol/ years ahead of his arrest.

This really gets to the core of my love/hate relationship with the "weird" internet. I was an Ars-poster ~20 years ago and hadn't heard any of those rumors. Never ventured into 4chan for more than 5 minutes at a time. But I did spend a lot of time in the Gawker comment section and reading things like the Crazy Days and Nights blog. It definitely gives you a different perspective on journalism. There are so many stories which exist in a different plane, completely known by mainstream journalists but unreported for decades. It's insane.

Always reminds me of the classic 1978 Johnny Rotten interview BBC interview where he calls out Jimmy Savile. (Video features a gross Piers Morgan pretending like he never heard about Savile.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4OzI9GYag0

We don't need the white supremacy, but we as a society do need the crass asshole who's not afraid to knock down the elites by a peg or two. (And the John Stewart "jesters" of the world do not count.)

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