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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Just a rocket booster reentering? These happen regularly especially now that launches are more frequent in US and China. It seems to match up with https://aerospace.org/reentries/cz-11-rocket-body-id-46463

That is a link to Chinese satellite launch mission. Would the booster even be noticeable in the US at aircraft altitude?

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I won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could gu…

(a) They are common, lots of stories. (b) Completely impossible to get good video about them. a & b => bs

That's what they used to say about rocks falling from the sky. Right up until 1803. https://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/L/L_Aigle.html

"Ernst Florens Chladni, was the first to publish (in 1794) the idea that meteorites might be rocks that originated not from Earth, but from space....The scientific community of the time responded with resistance and mockery." - Wikipedia

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Pondered, I have no idea what you're alluding to.

I think he's suggesting maybe we're in a simulation and the people writing the code are testing in prod.

You think you're good enough for prod?

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post #156

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There is very little requirement on equipment to fly in the US, you don't even need a radio in the majority of the space (only when you approach towered airports and other busy / special areas). So we're far from requiring a camera :)

Sure but for what GA costs on a recurring basis, a small camera or two is such a negligible cost and is really valuable for learning.

Not to mention, there's a great possibility that these unidentified aircraft are American.

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I'm curious why you don't film the whole flight. I'm almost surprised it's not a requirement, given how cheap and easy it is now.

There is very little requirement on equipment to fly in the US, you don't even need a radio in the majority of the space (only when you approach towered airports and other busy / special areas). So we're far from requiring a camera :)

What you say may be true, but the conclusion isn't, I don't think.

Case in point: the FAA now requires a digital transmitter beacon (ADS-B) in most of the commonly used airspaces in the continental US as of last month.

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Why poo poo this? This is what really irks me when people laugh this stuff off and spout off something about Fermi's paradox without even understanding it. Fermi's paradox only asks simply "if statistics say they are everywhere, well then where are they?" What if the answer is simply: "Zooming all around us and we occasionally see one". Period. The rest is assumption. Fermi's paradox does NOT presuppose contact. That…

Another reason to not dismiss it: UFO does not mean extraterrestrial, it just means unidentified.

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I saw (mostly heard) a rotorcraft flying really (but plausibly, for human tech) quite fast with absolutely no lights and no Mode B output about 400-500ft over residential areas a few months ago, about 15-20km WSW from Nellis AFB.

I don't think it was more than 2-3 meters across, but it was dark and scale was difficult. It was quite loud, I assume internal combustion but don't know what non-hobby-drone electric rotorcraft sound like.

It was about 0100. I assume it was a friendly, but who knows?

There's all sorts of shit going on in the sky, legal and otherwise. :D

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I'm so sick of the term UFO being applied to stuff like this. Even the pilot said it looked like a cruise missile but lo and behold the first conjecture in the article by the journalist is that it could be extraterrestrial and only at the end they say oh yeah it could also just be a military thing since you know there are a trillion military bases right under where it was flying over. I think we need a new term, mayb…

Why are you "sick" of it, what triggers such a response in you?

There's a reason people like to put such a spin on articles like this, and it isn't only because they want more clicks.

It's because it's related to one of the most important questions humankind has ever asked for many centuries.

That, and there are a lot of these reports throughout the history about this. And in very recent times, Pentagon officially recognized such phenomena - phenomena that is very similar to what is described in the article. Is it, then, so unreasonable to use a similar tone in such an article?

Why would you be "so sick" of it? Instead of allowing yourself to wonder at the sheer vastness of the universe and asking yourself similar questions, why would you choose to be so put off by it?

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Fwiw, the skies over Arizona were loaded with contrails today. Very unusual to see this kind of volume. All of the aircraft appeared to be heading due west in the direction of Las Vegas (Nellis AFB) and southern Cal. The last time I witnessed this degree of activity was in early 2020, one day after the drone strike on Iranian General Soleimani. The whole sky was a crisscross mesh of expanding vapor. In these circumst…

Why would Arizona skies be a crisscross mesh of expanding vapor because a drone in Baghdad assassinated someone?

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tbh this seems like the perfect situation to test US air defences and radar technology. Flying a long range unarmed stealth drone in lightly populated areas through the US would tell you a great deal about how observable the drone is to US radars. Flying dangerously through Air traffic controlled space also ensures that the military radars get pointed in your direction at some point or another. For an unarmed small(i…

This seems like the perfect situation to test how quickly you would like to be arrested.

It's also possible it is an internal US-on-US test of existing air defense systems? It's not like anything as huge as US air defense is totally monolithic, and people in the detection side may not even have need-to-know for the stuff being prototyped by offensive types.
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