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Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by mdoms »

bmn__ wrote: post #179
dirkc wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read up on Jonathan Blow [1], sounds like you might like his philosophy. The short of it is that he believes time is valuable and should be respected. I also love Braid, a game he made. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Blow#Philosophy_and_v...

> he believes time is valuable and should be respected That's what he says , but not what he does . https://youtu.be/KZokQov_aH0 Haven't experienced a bigger author disconnect in gaming in the decade.

No one is going to watch a 40 minute video with no context, dude.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by sushid »

meibo wrote: post #99
me_me_me wrote: post #73

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Same with Hades by Supergiant Games. Its an amazing game and the company is proudly kicking people out if they try to stay after hours. It is possible but you can also squeeze the life out of your replaceable staff and hold them guilt hostage (if you don't work as hard as everyone else then you are making them work harder). If the project has crunch time for the most development time then its not a crunch its the nor…

Disclaimer: Supergiant also sold out to Epic Games, one of the game industry harbingers of doom and workplace abuse(together with Activision-Blizzard). Might not want to give those any money.

How exactly is getting a better rate for game distribution "selling out?" Supergiant benefitted themselves and their developers by getting more money for the game.

I don't understand the vocal support for Steam over Epic Games. Steam literally charges you more and there are no competitors as big as Steam. I'd rather have a de facto duopoly vs a monopoly. And yes, I'm aware of GMG, Origin, Blizzard, etc.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by MaximumYComb »

bloopernova wrote: post #155
theshrike79 wrote: post #82

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Just figured out that I can start a custom map and turn off the biters. Been playing into the wee mornings for a week now. Got into the logic system heavily. I'm optimising production in my sleep now. Send help. Can't stop.

Off topic: what do you use logic for? I am at a loss on how to use it effectively.

The first effective use you stumble across is oil refining chains. Only turn on heavy cracking if heavy oil is backing up, etc.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by RGamma »

mysterydip wrote: post #95
RGamma wrote: post #62

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I find it disturbing to see how sour gaming has turned. If you would've asked me 15 years ago I would never have been able to imagine this outcome. It's befitting of the economic extremism and pessimistic zeitgeist of our time :( Hope there'll be a corrective force to this sometime soon before gaming turns entirely into a soulless commercialized husk. For all the talk there is about CP2077 superficial mistakes there'…

There are indie developers who are making games that aren't the corporate monstrosities you speak of, some mentioned elsewhere in comments. The problem is there's a lot of cruft too, and the advertising budgets of the good devs are small if existing at all. I wish there was a boardgamegeek equivalent for indie games to help with the discoverability problem.

I always turned to TotalBiscuit for indie recommendations while he was still around...

Just had to vent a bit because in my mind CDPR are (still!) the good guys who attempt to hold high standards of old, not least due to GOG. And then they receive this amount vitriol that they publicly apologize (what for? that they made a competent and highly relevant game?) and now this attack.

Can we please banish consumerist entitlement and corporate nonsense from the videogame world please?

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Netcob wrote: post #52

Reading the replies there tells me I did the right thing when I decided against a career in game development over a decade ago. It looks like a constant war between developers and gamers now. Developers are investing a lot of time into making their games literally addictive in the worst way possible, and not even remotely by making it fun - it's all about overpriced DLC, gambling and weird reward systems. Which has r…

It's especially sad to me because CDPR was one of the major developers who really seemed on the right side of things. The Witcher games never offered micro-transactions, and the DLC constituted substantial, supplementary extensions over the base game. (And it was sold DRM-Free to boot.)

Even as someone who never cared for their games, I really appreciated them as a developer. I can't say whether The Witcher contained compulsive/addictive elements, but CDPR was not incentivized to do so, which IMO is what matters.

I don't know whether or not this says anything about the industry, it's just a shame.

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Post by ryandrake »

SirSourdough wrote: post #202
tapoxi wrote: post #189

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By this logic, should we avoid any game that uses Unreal Engine?

You should discourage the use of Unreal Engine and avoid it wherever possible if you believe that Epic is an unethical company, of course.

How far does that chain extend though? If I buy a tuna melt from the local sandwich shop, and the owner of that shop goes and buys a video game, and the game company paid Epic for Unreal Engine, did I just support Epic?

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by Ekaros »

mm983 wrote: post #167

i'm really sorry for the devs. imaging spending a few years on developing an engine and game, just for all your competitors to get it for free

I would say that engine code doesn't have too much value without expertise to go with it. It's massively complex system with many moving parts and clearly they are also struggling to get it to work. Now try to take game out of it and with same effort you might just write a new one... Without legal hassle or baggage of existing games.

For example some devs told that HL: Alyx has some hacks left-over from HL2... And I don't think CdProjekt is any better...

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by Ekaros »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #13
atoav wrote: post #6

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I had one "I need to reload the game or else it won't work"-type of bug in 100 hours of gameplay. I have seen games that have been much much worse 4 years after the release than this game in it's current state.

On PC, I had softlocks, hardlocks, being catapulted at the other side of the map after climbing up a pile of trash, T-posing enemies with disabled AI, dead bodies talking, and plenty, plenty more. Neither your experience or mine is more valid, simply that "it did/didn't happen to me" isn't a good defense. Additionally, Cyberpunk is also being shat on for lacking mechanics or half-assing them. Cops being the more obvi…

On PC it looked to me like game softlocked in first hour of the gameplay. Didn't spend too much more time trying to get it work. If they can polish the first mission to be flawless I will give them lot more time and not with my money...

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Post by oliwarner »

Netcob wrote: post #52

Reading the replies there tells me I did the right thing when I decided against a career in game development over a decade ago. It looks like a constant war between developers and gamers now. Developers are investing a lot of time into making their games literally addictive in the worst way possible, and not even remotely by making it fun - it's all about overpriced DLC, gambling and weird reward systems. Which has r…

It certainly seems likely to be unpleasant there at the moment. A lot of other AAA developers do so much worse, treating salaried developers like contractors, making them crunch for no additional remuneration and then closing down the studio after the job's done. Hell, even contractors have contracts to protect them from this sort of abuse.

But I think gamedev clearly runs at two levels. There's AAAs and then there's everyone else. The smaller teams either running as a hobby or only just scraping by, and every so often there's a Mojang that makes it big.

But yeah, much easier doing B2B development work.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by me_me_me »

SirSourdough wrote: post #202
tapoxi wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, should we avoid any game that uses Unreal Engine?

You should discourage the use of Unreal Engine and avoid it wherever possible if you believe that Epic is an unethical company, of course.

And what do you believe in?
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