What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier • Hacker News Board

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by kelnos » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:05 AM UTC

computator wrote: post #219

To give another data point, this exact model--the Honeywell HCM-350--was reviewed by Consumer Reports [1] who rated it the 4th best model of 13 models in their large-room category for humidifiers. (The top three were Boneco 7135, Crane Germ Defense EE-8065, and Honeywell HWM-340.) This is what they said about the Honeywell HCM-350: "With Excellent ratings for moisture output, convenience, and energy efficiency, this…

I find it inexplicable that a humidifier that doesn't automatically shut off when the tank is empty can get a perfect score in the "convenience" category.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by disillusioned » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:05 AM UTC

I own this exact model. It's perfectly cromulent. I don't need to clean it that often. I don't frankly care that there's a bit of mineral scale in the basin. That's the only visible filth I see. It's quiet. Super quiet. A fan, on low. I fill the tank in my bathroom, and I seal the cap and invert it, so it, you know, doesn't dump water on my floor. I will concede that I'll take the mesh into the bathroom and dampen it, and it can drip a bit, but I just rest it on the inverted tank as I walk both back to the humidifier. This isn't rocket science.

Finally, I also own a cheapo hygrometer. It shows us hitting 15%-30% when running forced heat in the room. When I turn this on, it pushes up to 35%-40%. That's effective enough for me.

Honestly, this thing works. And I buy a six pack of cheaper meshes and just swap them out as the mesh yellows/gets a bit crusty, which usually takes a few weeks. No big deal, cost of doing business.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:16 AM UTC

8ytecoder wrote: post #217

gnicholas wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Previously discussed on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22141719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16729408 I still use The Wirecutter, but in combination with other sources. I try to ask myself the question: do there appear to be competing products that wouldn't provide the affiliate revenue and therefore potentially be left out of the recommendations? If I'm just deciding between a bunch of stuff on Ama…

I’m assuming you have tried consumer report? They don’t accept any incentives from the manufacturers. They even buy all their test products.

I have in the past but not much recently. I got the impression they tested fewer products and had a bit of a lag in terms of publication. Perhaps things have changed though?

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by lemmsjid » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:19 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #176

DoreenMichele wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is forcing you to write. I write because it's something I can do. I'm seriously handicapped and there are a lot of things I simply cannot do. That's a lousy argument. I use myself as an example for various reasons, but the reality is this a widespread problem and the state of journalism is a real problem, as I noted above. I'm well aware of why people don't like hearing they basically want slave labor. I've li…

> I'm well aware of why people don't like hearing they basically want slave labor. They don’t like it because it’s a bald faced lie. You’re accusing them of supporting slavery. Just a quick refresher on what slavery is (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery ) > Slavery and enslavement are both the state and the condition of being a slave, who is someone forbidden to quit their service for another person and is t…

Slave labor is also a colloquialism for poorly paid work. The Cambridge dictionary for example says it has an “informal disapproving” sense of “very hard work for which people are paid very little” and has an example sentence of “It’s slave labor working in that office”. Dictionary.com’s example is “data entry at that salary is slave labor.”

You can argue that colloquialism is a crass juxtaposition of horrifying slavery and things far less horrifying, but it’s clear to me the OP was using it in that informal sense, and is probably quite aware slavery was a terrible thing.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by Danieru » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:20 AM UTC

zkms wrote: post #218

luisfmh wrote: post #182

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Are there any of those Japanese ones you can buy in North America? Any brands you're aware of?

> Are there any of those Japanese ones you can buy in North America? Any brands you're aware of? yeah, i'm curious as well.

Alright since you guys asked I found the closest in spec Sharp model to my favorite domestic Sharp.

In America KC-850U: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BF665Y/ref=emc_b_5_t

In Japan KC-H50-W: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B077TC5PM8/ref=ppx_yo_dt...

The American offering is an extra 150$, but that buys you marketing videos with a fake scientist pouring baby powder through a filter onto a hepa filter. Japan gets no video at all. Otherwise the Ozone generator, carbon + hepa filters, wheel driven wick humidifier, and canister water tanks are all the same.

The Japanese model also includes modes to disable all lighting, switches between displaying humidity or energy consumption in either KWh or yen per day.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by numlock86 » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:24 AM UTC

computator wrote: post #219

To give another data point, this exact model--the Honeywell HCM-350--was reviewed by Consumer Reports [1] who rated it the 4th best model of 13 models in their large-room category for humidifiers. (The top three were Boneco 7135, Crane Germ Defense EE-8065, and Honeywell HWM-340.) This is what they said about the Honeywell HCM-350: "With Excellent ratings for moisture output, convenience, and energy efficiency, this…

> [...] won’t shut off automatically when the tank is empty.

> Convenience 5/5

How does this go together? Spoiled Dyson user here.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by numlock86 » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:26 AM UTC

syntaxing wrote: post #210

Can anyone recommend a good humidifier that doesn’t mold!? This is so relatable it hurts. I bought one of these too for the UV functionality. But it didn’t do much and there was mold not just in the wick...BUT on the blades too which I couldn’t take apart to clean. Any review on the Dyson humidifier in terms of mold?

I never had any mold or even any scent from my Dyson. And it was sitting with water for months last summer.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by sephamorr » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:28 AM UTC

zbrozek wrote: post #84

Ajedi32 wrote: post #22

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Actually just discovered that channel a couple weeks ago. Kind of amazing how interesting he can make such mundane topics. (Though I do prefer to watch at 1.75-2x speed.)

This channel is the only one where I find real utility in Newpipe's ability to go faster than that.

Newpipe is the first video player I've found which has a trim-silence feature. I use the similar feature for (audio) podcasts all the time and according to pocketcasts, it saves me huge amounts of time. I've enjoyed having it for videos too.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by JohnBooty » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:31 AM UTC

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #151

paxys wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do they backtrack? The article is pretty clear about there being no editorial influence.

Did you read about the order of events?

You're reading a causal meaning into "after" that clearly was not intended by the author of Wirecutter's response. They are clearly expressing a simple temporal relation and not a causal one.

Please be clear that I have no opinion on the truthfulness of the Wirecutter's response. Perhaps they're truly corrupt as all hell. I have no inside knowledge of how they operate.

However, it is absolutely clear you're reading something into the "after" that was not intended.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by rrauenza » Tue, Feb 02, 2021, 7:39 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #221

computator wrote: post #219

To give another data point, this exact model--the Honeywell HCM-350--was reviewed by Consumer Reports [1] who rated it the 4th best model of 13 models in their large-room category for humidifiers. (The top three were Boneco 7135, Crane Germ Defense EE-8065, and Honeywell HWM-340.) This is what they said about the Honeywell HCM-350: "With Excellent ratings for moisture output, convenience, and energy efficiency, this…

I find it inexplicable that a humidifier that doesn't automatically shut off when the tank is empty can get a perfect score in the "convenience" category.

It might be that you'd like to finish drying out the wick so it doesn't mold? And use up the last of the water?

I seem to recall Technology Connections also complaining about the auto shutoff in his videos...