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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by [deleted] »

horsawlarway wrote: post #217
dgregd wrote: post #199

I run a small company and offer an app to monitor sales reps work. Managers use it also to see how much time employees spend in the field. To count how much time is spend in some specific location my app uses background location updates. 10 years ago I was distributing just the apk file. Then I moved to Play store. It turned out that most people on their company owned Android devices don't configure Play Store. App u…

Good - There's a clear theme in the motivations of both major mobile OS companies here: You, a 3rd party developer making custom software products for a mobile platform, are no longer allowed to have customers yourself. Instead you must grovel and beg and pray that our lords Apple/Google consent to allow you to rent their customers. This consent can be revoked at any time, you will pay through the nose for it (20%+ o…

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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by emayljames »

grishka wrote: post #204
int_19h wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A long time ago, I saw a guy unable to post on a corporate blog of his own team. Turned out that his name was flagged by a filter. What made this particularly egregious is that the name in question: "Hui" - wasn't even a swear word in either his own native language - Chinese - nor in English. But it closely resembles a Russian profanity. Turned out that the filter was "multilingual", and applied rules for all languag…

Why the hell would it even apply Russian filters to something that isn't written in Cyrillic? And this isn't the best English transliteration of that word either... That's really some dedication.

Yeah, they would have to do literal translation based on phonetics. That is just insane.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by falcolas »

hotz wrote: post #95
falcolas wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contact the police so they can arrest the poster? Also, maintain a public denylist of packages with an transparent process for overriding or correcting the list?

Is a denylist a blacklist? Denylist as a word doesn't really roll off the tongue.

It rolls off the tongue better than blacklist, since a hard consonant in the middle of the word is slightly harder to enunciate than one starting the word.

But, should you instead mean "I don't like it so I'll ridicule it," well, I can't please everybody. Sorry.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by comboy »

deckard1 wrote: post #192
comboy wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm quite confident you can't run a company as big as Google without being evil but it seems useful to ponder why does it happen. Corpo structure seems to have something to do with it, separate things into categories, then teams get categories and optimize locally without taking bigger picture into account (or even knowing what the picture is). Some regulations, maybe some pressures from some agencies about which the…

> seems useful to ponder why does it happen. Ooooh. I know this one! Because that's what VCs want . AirBNB, Uber, Postmates, Google, Facebook, Apple. VCs want to invest in winner-takes-all platforms and markets with incredibly strong network effects. But don't say any of that out loud: https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/08/07/google-doc... All these people rushing in to Silicon Valley with hat-in-hand going…

Many people at the top are set up for life (and maybe next few generations). Why would they care about money?

Yes of course you can tell the tale how it's not ever enough, how money equals power and people want power, but I don't really buy that. These are highly intelligent and creative individuals. They probably also know that power is responsibility and have enough of that.

Additional millions/billions have zero impact on their life and I really doubt many of them playing a game between themselves about who has the biggest number. Popular media probably care more about that.

If you want to scream at the rich, I think you won't find names of those most interesting in any rankings and not much in tech. They have they patents, oil wells, gov contracts, connections, HFTs and wealth well hidden from the public eye.

Most of companies you list offered something that people wanted and that's why they got a lot of money*. That's how the money is supposed to work. Compare it to trading companies that got money from banks which got money from Fed which was created out of thin air. Those at the top of banks and big funds effectively get money from everyone else, without providing them any value, without their consent. Even innocent real estate investment seem to involve more evil and greed than making a and running a huge company without pretty much any realistic vacation.

I'm not saying that your point is completely without merit, there is a lot of greed especially in the startup world. I just think that's a huge oversimplification.

* more realistically they won at something new that was growing fast

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by sa1 »

horsawlarway wrote: post #217
dgregd wrote: post #199

I run a small company and offer an app to monitor sales reps work. Managers use it also to see how much time employees spend in the field. To count how much time is spend in some specific location my app uses background location updates. 10 years ago I was distributing just the apk file. Then I moved to Play store. It turned out that most people on their company owned Android devices don't configure Play Store. App u…

Good - There's a clear theme in the motivations of both major mobile OS companies here: You, a 3rd party developer making custom software products for a mobile platform, are no longer allowed to have customers yourself. Instead you must grovel and beg and pray that our lords Apple/Google consent to allow you to rent their customers. This consent can be revoked at any time, you will pay through the nose for it (20%+ o…

Me, a customer, is very happy that they play a regulatory role and are taking steps to prevent surveillance of the form GP is proposing.

I’m glad that I don’t have a direct relationship with shady 3rd party developers.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by simlevesque »

erk__ wrote: post #193
Lammy wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the old-school analog EIA-608 captioning system can do positional captions. It's all these modern web players (like Youtube's) that have regressed to a single line of text bottom-center.

YouTube actually supports it through a feature called WebVTT [0], though it is rarely used, an example of it is this video [1] where it is used for placement and lighting up text for karaoke. The actual code for it is looks like this: 00:03:31.485 --> 00:03:31.719 align:start position:0% line:0% Hey! nanika ga okoru spe cial night 00:03:31.485 --> 00:03:31.719 align:start position:0% line:0% Hey! nanika ga okoru spe…

Just a heads up for anyone who want to see the karaoke, set the CC language to Japanese.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by kuschku »

Lammy wrote: post #107
novok wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably because they are forced to use really shitty subbing formats for assisted text in some compliance format :| Edit: Are those baked into the video or did they just use the ASS format?

Even the old-school analog EIA-608 captioning system can do positional captions. It's all these modern web players (like Youtube's) that have regressed to a single line of text bottom-center.

Actually most modern systems support image embedding, animations, styling, and positioning with TTML. It’s an official spec, supported by every television, Netflix, Chromecast, etc.

It’s also a format no fansubber ever heard of.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by ttt0 »

nitrogen wrote: post #216
ttt0 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean all those channels that have been demonetized and have Patreon accounts? And if this really is the case then stop complaining about it.

Everyone is well within their rights to want to support creators by tolerating some ads, while simultaneously complaining about ads they do not tolerate.

Not tolerating ads == using adblocker.

And can we please stop turning every discussion, no matter how trivial, into a discussion about rights? Did I say anything that would suggest that I want to take any rights from someone?

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Post by LunaSea »

sa1 wrote: post #225
horsawlarway wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good - There's a clear theme in the motivations of both major mobile OS companies here: You, a 3rd party developer making custom software products for a mobile platform, are no longer allowed to have customers yourself. Instead you must grovel and beg and pray that our lords Apple/Google consent to allow you to rent their customers. This consent can be revoked at any time, you will pay through the nose for it (20%+ o…

Me, a customer, is very happy that they play a regulatory role and are taking steps to prevent surveillance of the form GP is proposing. I’m glad that I don’t have a direct relationship with shady 3rd party developers.

When it's an explicit feature your argument is a difficult one to hold.

It amounts to not being able to use features that are available in the API.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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Post by thomasz »

heavyset_go wrote: post #148
thomasz wrote: post #12

It's really breathtaking. They take an astonishing amount of your revenue. And they do not even try.

The mobile app distribution market really needs some disruption.

It needs regulation. There is no way a functioning market is going to grow out of the current ecosystem.
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