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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by petschge »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #159
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, none of that is true. See today's news about pressure on the FDA to certify the vaccine.

Show me one double blind efficacy study of any vaccine. It's never been done that I have seen. Edit: removed hyperbole

There is double blind studies that tests efficacy of new vaccines for diseases that already had an approved vaccine. And those studies do find differences in efficacy (just because the old vaccine was 96% effective doesn't mean the new one can't do better) as well as in occurrence rate of side effects.

There have even been studies where the vaccine that you get in the control arm of the study is the vaccine against Meningitis and then after a year or two they do give you what ever vaccine you had not received yet. (Sorry, forgot against which disease the vaccine under test was protecting.)

And of course there is double blind studies where you get three injections, one of which is saline, two are active. They are given a few weeks apart, you don't know the order and they check antibody level in the blood every week.

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Post by pmiller2 »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #189
setpatchaddress wrote: post #84

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You're assuming distribution will work fairly and optimally. That's very unlikely, especially because the initial rollout will still be overseen by the Trump admin.

You mean the admin that funded and fast-tracked the development and trials?

You mean the admin that encouraged people not to wear masks? The one that downplayed the virus at every opportunity? The one that held rallies without masks required, but still had people sign waivers in case they got sick?

Is it that one, or some other administration you’re thinking of?

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Post by _wwz4 »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #167
bondarchuk wrote: post #141

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So what is the reason given for it being unethical? Of course I realize there is a tradeoff involved in delaying the rollout of a vaccine but I don't see how that is related to the way vaccines are made, specifically.

To truly prove the efficacy of a vaccine you would have to intentionally give a test subject the virus to see if the vaccine actually works. It's not been done once by modern western medicine because it would be unethical by modern medical practices to intentionally infect a person.

Efficacy is still tested with vaccines because there is a statistical expectation of contracting a given disease.

If you give 40,000 people a random mix of placebo and vaccines and then monitor whether or not they contract the target disease, you get an indication of efficacy by comparing the vaccinated group to the placebo group.

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Post by mrkramer »

radicalbyte wrote: post #27

I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.

> People who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague)

What if somebody has asymptomatic covid infection? He or she spreads it without intent, you can not blame them.

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Post by maxerickson »

kylebenzle wrote: post #74
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?

I see immunologists stating that the immunity from the vaccine is likely to be better than from infection (even saying directly that people that have been infected should still get vaccinated).

Edit, here ya go: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-covid-survivors-immun...

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Post by Kliment »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #199
Barrin92 wrote: post #139

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because believe it or not some people live in countries where the government manages to do just that.

I have already watched wealthy people in Germany and France and China skip the queue.

Outside clinical trials nobody in Germany or France has been vaccinated as there are no approved vaccines in those countries.

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Post by thelean12 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #199
Barrin92 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because believe it or not some people live in countries where the government manages to do just that.

I have already watched wealthy people in Germany and France and China skip the queue.

Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved?

This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation on HN today?

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Post by h3cate »

Invictus0 wrote: post #104
h3cate wrote: post #88

I'm genuinely curious as to why people have so much faith in big pharma after the whole benzo crisis that's hit America. Weren't these same companies paying doctors to get people hooked on Xanax?

Are you suggesting that we'll get addicted to the covid vaccine? This thing isn't designed for repeat customers.

Not at all, I'm not suggesting anything, I am just asking a question. The current thinking is that you will need to have regular boosters of this vaccine so yes it is designed for repeat customers if that's the case
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