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Re: Google Stories

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Post by messo »

The concept of Stories does not seem very complex to implement from a technical point of view. This makes me hope that someone feels inspired to make a open source Stories-project that can be self-hosted and integrated easily anywhere on the web – without AMP and Googles tracking tentacles built into it. Maybe make it part of the Fediverse?

I know that Pixelfed has their own Instagram-inspired Stories functionality – ephemeral stories that disappear after 24h. What Google has built here seems to be a b2c-focused product.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by rjmunro »

lopis wrote: post #216
pas wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this comes up every time Google/AMP is involved, but .. what's the argument that AMP is anti-competitive? It's and open protocol, you can make your own AMP crawler, content-maker, parser, etc? I agree that the continued increase of "shiny"-ness of "content" is basically hacking people's attention and it should be drastically clamped down - but still, I don't see the argument for how Google and AMP and the "ope…

It's a protocol pushed by one company that wants to bend the web to fit it's purposes. To do that, Google ranks AMP pages more highly. And that's anti competitive and breaks search. One reason Google wants the whole web to be "standard" is so they can scrape all information more easily, show users rich content by stealing your website's traffic, and create an internet information silo.

Why is AMP worse than Facebook's "instant articles", or whatever it is that the Apple news app does?

Re: Google Stories

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Post by odiroot »

freediver wrote: post #7
stevenpetryk wrote: post #3

Let's take a moment of silence in solidarity with all the engineers who will now have to make their company's blog support this.

And let's take a moment of silence in solidarity for all engineers who worked on this when this gets scraped.

But they can be happy for their manager, who'd get promoted for pushing this out. Maybe they all will even get some bonus!

Re: Google Stories

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Post by swiley »

dmje wrote: post #119
nullsense wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And let's also take a moment of silence for everyone who invested time and energy into creating stories only for Google to just not be bothered anymore and switch it off.

Maybe a moment of silence for people who read and write long form content and like to immerse rather than skim... ~ sigh ~

Maybe also one for blind and vision impaired people, this looks like just a sequence of videos.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by BrianOnHN »

netsharc wrote: post #100
scoopertrooper wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The show cases make things slightly more clear. It seems like a framework for creating short vertical-orientated chaptered videos with fancy captions and that play mute by default. Why anyone would want this? I do not know. https://stories.google/showcase/

I looked at the money showcase: https://www.refinery29.com/stories/how-stuff-is-made-money/ So... it's like watching a YouTube video, but every 10 seconds, it jumps back 10 seconds and repeats that 10 seconds, so you have to keep pressing "next [slide]" (at least Instagram/Snapchat progresses seamlessly) God fucking damnit, people...

The subscribe button at the end doesn't seem to work either.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by robin_reala »

k3liutZu wrote: post #199
stingraycharles wrote: post #24

Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

> I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel old right now. Another "social" attempt from Google. Anyone remember Google+?

Could be worse, you could remember Google Buzz.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by mikro2nd »

whoisjuan wrote: post #73
scrollaway wrote: post #9

Wow, I guess this is what FOMO looks like when taken to the b2c megacorp level. It feels like a safe bet that this is Google+ all over again, and it'll fail just as badly. But hey, set a 5 year reminder and I'll happily take the "I was wrong" on this if I indeed am.

The non-cynical take is that "stories" is the first content format since the "feed" that is really sticky and opens a new avenue for user interaction. Everyone is adopting them because is now clear that it's not a fad. Consumers understand the concept of stories and actually engage heavily with them so nobody wants to miss out. Of course not all the implementations are good or useful, but from a user interaction pers…

When the discussion thread abounds with people who have no idea what this "stories" concept is about, and none of them seem to care to find out,... that's the first hint that you might want to question some of your assumptions.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by chrisweekly »

sktrdie wrote: post #52
stingraycharles wrote: post #24

Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

It’s pretty cool. If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Think of it as a mini-html site that follows a specific set of visual JS and CSS protocols so that consumers have guarantee of its behavior (will not have crazy ads, gifs or third party content) and behaves consistently. Kind of interesting avenue for publishing conten…

"isn’t tied to any specific platform"

er, isn't it explicitly tied to google?

Re: Google Stories

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Post by jeffrallen »

swiley wrote: post #225
dmje wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe a moment of silence for people who read and write long form content and like to immerse rather than skim... ~ sigh ~

Maybe also one for blind and vision impaired people, this looks like just a sequence of videos.

If we changed these moments of silence into shots of tequila, we'd really get this party started!
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