I found it strange that they constantly used "developers". I guess this is the marketing department word to use instead of "users"?
GitHub's users are developers, not the general user.
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder how much MS funds the RIAA as a member of it.
Dues are $2500/y if you have revenues of $1-5MM, $5000/y if you have revenues of $5-15MM, and "contact us" beyond that: https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/RIAA_ApplyFo... Since one presumes that Microsoft does not sell much music (didn't they shut down their music store a few years ago?), I can't imagine they've negotiated dues that scale linearly on Microsoft's total revenue - so, in fact, I'd expect th…
Unfortunately it seems difficult to discover how long they’ve been a member: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24902985
They could theoretically have donated $2MM at $50K a year if they had joined back around the time when Bill Gates was railing about ‘theft’ of his BASIC (and others were replacing it with a superior ‘@copyleft all wrongs reserved’ one) ~45 year ago.
(Edit: of course cash is only one form of value.)
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#223I'm late on this discussion but as Google has made Youtube their platform for music streaming, their only platform for music streaming, this can be used to download all music from there no? (not even talking about movies)
Kind of sucks for them, seems like this is a major threat to that service in eyes of their content providers (record labels)
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#224Would be stupid and naive to ignore or belittle every other contribution but open source and hacker culture has pushed the human race forward by leaps and bounds within just last two decades alone.
This spirit and culture must live on forever.
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#225Cue ewok celebration. However by episode 7 everything we'll be back in the same situation sans ewoks.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever you watch a video you are downloading it. youtube-dl merely gives you control over where that stream goes, whether it's to a hard disk or to a media player like the regular Youtube.
The point is that youtube-dl does more than just download videos. It can also be used for downloading metadata. I use -J to download metadata formatted as JSON.
How much of that metadata is not normally downloaded alongside the video?
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#227GitHub is still hosting the full youtube-dl version history, including versions which include those supposedly infringing tests. Does copyright law end with HEAD on master? Those tests are still there. This makes it especially obvious that the RIAA's problem with youtube-dl was never really the tests.
> Does copyright law end with HEAD on master? With regards to copyright law and "distribution", there's no distinction. The tests are still being "distributed", just from a different URL. If youtube-dl was in violation before, they still are now. This is a confusing result. I would not expect any copyright litigant to sacrifice legal advantage for the sake of an adversary's convenience in maintaining complete version…
Does the fact that the RIAA is packed with stodgy, old corporate lawyers who most likely lack even superficial understanding of the term "version control" lack appropriate explanatory power?
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Technology has had an impact on nearly any industry you can think of. As such, there is no shortage of tech work outside of ad tech. Ten years ago I worked on ad tech shit for Amazon, but I quit when I realized that made me a parasite. I don't work in food delivery, but I'd say getting a pizza from point A to B is a hell of a lot more productive than being a lawyer for the RIAA.
Appified pizza delivery is rent seeking. There is zero need for a multinational between hungry people and food delivery. Inserting them raises costs, lowers service quality, and lowers revenue to restaurants. Off topic, but I would like to note this thread's congruence to Snow Crash : There's only four things we do better than anyone else: music movies microcode (software) high-speed pizza delivery
I was thinking more along the line of the people who actually deliver the pizza. It's an honest job, unlike being an RIAA lawyer or ad tech programmer. But next to either of those, even delivery app developers are saints.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Creating or providing a tool and using a tool are not the same action. Likewise, since there are legal fair use scenarios of copyrighted materials (short clips, criticism, satire, academic, etc) so even using the tool isn't inherently against the law and the person creating or providing the tools can't know and legally doesn't need to know the end user's intentions. Copyright lawyers working for the highest profile a…
Drug paraphernalia is still a crime in most places. Not sure what the equal to "spice grinder" here is.
if there is no residue then classifying it as "drug paraphernalia" would be in bad faith
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#230I didnt think I could have much more goodwill toward the EFF, yet here we are. Donations link: https://supporters.eff.org/donate/30for30--D
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