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Now that YouTube is back up I take this opportunity to put this thread to a good use and ask what does it take to create an alternative to YouTube? Would love your opinions/wish list/must haves.

Although I sometime upload things to YouTube, I'm primarily a YouTube viewer. Nevertheless, I think that the greatest strength of YouTube is the ease of uploading content. So many people have uploaded so much material on so many topics that just about anything you might want to learn about or enjoy is likely to be covered well on YouTube.

Many people have pointed out issues with recommendation algorithms, both on YouTube and elsewhere—particularly the “falling down the rabbit hole” phenomenon of getting deeper and deeper into conspiracy theories. I generally stay away from politics on YouTube, though, and most of my recommendations are actually quite helpful: good videos on topics that I’ve been viewing recently or have searched for.

So, for me at least, alternatives to YouTube would have to have those two features at a minimum: seamless uploading with few restrictions, and good recommendations. Whether that would be feasible commercially I have no idea.

Oh, one more thing: Hire the HN guys to design the moderation system for the new service's comments. YouTube comments are, in general, horrible.

Re: YouTube Down

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post #213

Now that YouTube is back up I take this opportunity to put this thread to a good use and ask what does it take to create an alternative to YouTube? Would love your opinions/wish list/must haves.

First, collect a few billion dollars....

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With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures.

It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and started to gain traction. YouTube has only existed for fifteen years, but it might continue to exist for centuries. The demand that has arisen in people to watch videos online is probably not reversible so long as maintaining a video streaming service is still physically possible. If not YouTube, something else would probably fill in such a void if it ever appears, barring the Apocalypse.

It gives me a lot of conflicting feelings. Twenty years ago, few people would have known they wanted the unique content that YouTube offered that wasn't available at the time, like livestreamers or swathes of content about every single plane crash or minor video game mechanic that can be talked about. But now, thousands have become hooked on them. I can't remember the details, only that I've watched them at some point. I wonder where the time would have went if we were not enterprising enough to invent big data and portable streams and engagement metrics. And for me personally, I can say that I "like" a lot of content, but I'm reasonably certain that's the kind of thing some portion of drug addicts would say about their habits. Not much of it actually helps me.

Re: YouTube Down

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Downdetector seems like a great place to advertise. You have a bunch of people who were forced to abandon the provider of whatever type of service that your company may offer. What a great opportunity to show customers your competing product.

Maybe for other types of service yes, I find difficult to plug a alternative to YouTube, other type of streaming services maybe? Netlfix etc

https://anim8.io for animation fans

Re: YouTube Down

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With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

It's an incredible surveillance system in so many ways. Only a few DASH video segments ever get cached locally, so even re-watching an old favorite video involves making requests that give away my identity, geographic location, and current interest.

Re: YouTube Down

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With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

Youtube has some fundamental trust issues resulting in huge free speech problems:

- YT music takedown system, resulting in musicians usually earning nothing each month

- YT SJWs very aggressively censoring right, COVID-19 and MRA content.

As a viewer, YT is great. As a content creator, it's awful.

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