From the title I thought this was two distinct features running in google's background that used Web ML to figure out how to work together.
Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#222Having used both Zoom and Meet extensively now for the past 6 months, my experience is: 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. 2/ Zoom's desktop app performs very well, but its web version is atrocious. Not just because of the dark patterns they use to force you to install the desktop app, but also its performance is terrible compared to its desktop version, as well as wors…
Meet certanly rolls out improvements for GSuite before public ones. I think there's even a GSuite setting of "release channel" where you can control how early you get these improvements.
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#223I wish my coworkers would stop using background blur. It sucks and it’s distracting. Your hair and hands pop in and out of blur. Sometimes part of your face will blur. I don’t care if your workspace is messy or your kid walks in the room. I do care that we’re all being distracted by your weirdly blurred hair and hands.
I don't think anyone is being distracted by blurred hair or hands. If your coworkers don't feel comfortable even turning on the camera, it shouldn't matter to you. Aside from edge cases like a modelling agency looking for fresh faces, you have zero right to demand how people choose to potray themselves in a VC call.
I have no problem with people choosing to leave their cameras off (I rarely turn my own camera on in meetings). I still think the complaint about poorly implemented background blur/background replacement is at least partially valid. It is very distracting to me compared to either a raw camera or no camera at all.
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#224Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.
Press Ctrl-D to mute/unmute. Doesn't excuse the UI, but at least this lets you avoid using it!
Which is so odd as CTRL-D is also the bookmark shortcut in Google Chrome. So, say for example, my team has a goto channel where we have our ad-hoc meetings. It's a pain to bookmark it for later use without jumping through the gui.
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#225Why are people replacing their backgrounds? I thought the whole point of having a video call is to see who you are talking to, and their environment to further enhance the effectiveness of the conversation. If you are in your kitchen, or under a tree, I definitely would like to see that because that environment will have an effect on how we communicate.
If the apartment is a mess in general. Table full of empty cans of beer. A dildo on a chair. Your wife randomly walking by in her underwear (not sure whether this would be unblurred?). In the above scenarios, if I'm not certain there aren't going to be ackward things in behind me, I'd want to blur or set a custom background. Back against a wall also works which is what a lot of people seem to be doing.
Why not just turn off your camera? The blurring tech doesn't seem nearly reliable enough for me to trust it if my "office" was that much of a catastrophe.
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#226Interesting that this post made it to #1. It seems like Google marketing trick. Anyone who uses the blue realizes that it's far lacking in quality from other offerings and Google Meet UI is very bad also. Zoom, Teams, even WebEx are superior quality and usability wise.
> Zoom, Teams, even WebEx are superior quality Are they able to change the bg in the browser?
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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meet is business oriented and offers features that Hangouts does not, e.g. dialing in via phone. It also requires a G Suite account (or did before COVID, IIRC).
Didn't hangouts have a business version as well?
That's the same product. It was renamed to Meet.
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#228Having used both Zoom and Meet extensively now for the past 6 months, my experience is: 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. 2/ Zoom's desktop app performs very well, but its web version is atrocious. Not just because of the dark patterns they use to force you to install the desktop app, but also its performance is terrible compared to its desktop version, as well as wors…
Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but not Meet).
For the last item, personal accounts (only?) default to send and receive video at lower resolution (360p). So if you meant that the quality is lower, you can set it on both sides to 720p.
Edit: I don’t think Meet remembers those settings though, so you have to do it every time (and show your family members how to do so).
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#229Having used both Zoom and Meet extensively now for the past 6 months, my experience is: 1/ Your internet connection, especially upload bandwidth and latency matter a lot. 2/ Zoom's desktop app performs very well, but its web version is atrocious. Not just because of the dark patterns they use to force you to install the desktop app, but also its performance is terrible compared to its desktop version, as well as wors…
I used Meet and Zoom in the last weeks.
Meet was much worse than Zoom, even when I take the bad web interface of Zoom into account.
I ain't a fan of either, though.
Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've often thought that on a touch screen device the OS should ignore touches on buttons/popups that have been on screen for less time than a human could reasonably have observed it and chosen to interact with it. If I touch the screen 0.05 seconds after a button appears, I was probably _not_ aiming for that button. In fact, now I think about it, this has happened many times over the years with traditional mouse driv…
Honestly with mouse driven interfaces the rule should be that whatever is popping up on screen absolutely cannot put an interactable control under the current mouse cursor location, and no control should have control focus by default. There's nothing quite like watching a dialog box go flying by because you hit enter at the exact moment it popped up. What was it? What did it do? We'll never know!
My "favorite" instance of that, many years ago, was when the dialog turned out to have said, "Reboot the computer immediately because IT has installed new software." I filed a ticket on that one.