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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I've been using containers on Firefox for a long time now. And I love it. But my biggest issue is Firefox performance on MacOS. The only reason it's not my primary browser is because Safari is just so much better. What I wonder is, is this just me, or does everyone have this problem?

I've literally never had someone say Safari is better. Chromium, sure...but Safari? It's like the IE of the browser world these days.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Do not use Temporary Containers. This extension to Multi-Account Containers looks great at first -- its Automatic mode spins up a new container each time you open a new tab, then switches that tab to an existing container, should one be associated with the TLD you visit. The problem is that Temporary Containers does not delete these temporary containers. They accumulate in the MAC containers list. There is no way to…

Temporary Containers has an option "Delete no longer needed Temporary Containers" which defaults to 15 minutes, but can also be set to immediate. Are you setting this option to something else? Temporary Containers works really well for me. I have per domain isolation, which only breaks very very few sites (Gmail and Outlook 365). For those I have regular persistent containers. Alternatively, I can always open a new p…

> The only thing I miss is Vimperator. Modern alternatives are full of glitches because of inherent limitations in the WebExtensions API.

Didn't use Vimperator, but I found Tridactyl to be pretty good, especially their hinting mode.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

I didn't know about the default containers. Thanks, that's great to know!

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Why do you hate the Google account switched for Gmail? It keeps all of my Gmail-attached sites isolated in Chrome and is easy to use on desktop (non-existent on Android Chrome unfortunately).

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I've been using containers on Firefox for a long time now. And I love it. But my biggest issue is Firefox performance on MacOS. The only reason it's not my primary browser is because Safari is just so much better. What I wonder is, is this just me, or does everyone have this problem?

I've literally never had someone say Safari is better. Chromium, sure...but Safari? It's like the IE of the browser world these days.

Battery usage and smoothness of transitions on back button. In those areas Safari is unbeatable, for obvious reasons.

But yes, overall it is such an inferior browser, kept forcefully relevant by the iPhone alone.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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> various other things to fingerprint the request Isn't this exactly how it prevents FB from tracking you? Those "various other things" that it uses will all be different between different containers. I think the source IP thing is a valid point, which is why other commenters have pointed out that you can force your FB container to connect through a proxy, while your other containers don't.

Timestamps, IP, and user agent are probably enough to reconstruct the user visit. Chrome is now sending a browser generated fingerprint x-client-data to all Google's domains while of course they will be trying to end use of referer header for everyone else. They are shameless and think people are dumb. Mobile carriers are injecting their own fingerprint headers into outgoing http requests as well if not using https.

TIL about x-client-data. It looks even worse than user-agent, it's completely unique per user.

I think you mean user-agent rather than referer?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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The two main things I notice: Some websites basically crash the computer on Firefox but run fine on Safari. Mostly JS heavy sites. The energy usage of Firefox is way higher than Safari, which in turns makes my fans spin a lot harder. Basically some sites will peg the CPU and hit max fan speed, but the same site just sips energy on Safari. Video streaming is a prime example of this. I can use twitch on Safari and it u…

> Some websites basically crash the computer What does "crash the computer" mean? Do you get the MacOS equivalent of a BSOD?

Disclaimer: Firefox is my daily driver. There are sites that just make FF spike its CPU usage, I guess through rogue JS, and if you let them run they’ll make macOS stutter (this on a beefy 2016 mbp). Sadly, some of these are big names like new Reddit and new Facebook.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#228

I've been using containers on Firefox for a long time now. And I love it. But my biggest issue is Firefox performance on MacOS. The only reason it's not my primary browser is because Safari is just so much better. What I wonder is, is this just me, or does everyone have this problem?

I've literally never had someone say Safari is better. Chromium, sure...but Safari? It's like the IE of the browser world these days.

That sounds more like the result of a filter bubble than reality. Safari is the default browser on a lot of Macs, but those users don't comment on HN about using it. It would also be useful if you described the properties of Safari that make it "IE" to you, since it's hard to discern what that means otherwise.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I am hard pressed to think of any other website in the 25 year history of the WWW that was so abusive of its users that web browsers had to start inventing features to protect user from it.

Any website from mid 90s through early 2000s when popups were the dominate way to deliver ads to users. Want to say Yahoo services and just about any local news site were good examples but it has been 20 years. Browsers added popup/popunder blocking settings that exist to this day which neutered that ad revenue model.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Tooting my own horn :). Session Boss [1] saves the container information as part of the session and can restore the tabs in their respective containers. I use it to maintain multiple Gmail accounts and other email accounts in different containers.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/session-boss/

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